Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

Mirai

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No the only fact is that Ukraine received parts for migs from a number of different countries. The point we are debating is how did Poland give Ukraine operational jets and still have the same number of operational jets to give afterwards. You're yet to answer this question.

How do you know how many planes they have? Did you count them? At the time local media was going on about how many of the Migs stopped flying.
 

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The guy has effectively been in power for 22 years, rules one of the most corrupt countries in the world but am absolutely sure he never took a ruble for himself. :rolleyes:
While the poor were starving the Politbeuro ate caviar. It's the Russian way.
 

Mirai

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From March last year when the talk first started.




I think thats proof enough that Poland hasnt given any operational planes.

Well no, that's not proof of anything because this source:

In the Polish Air Force inventory there are 22 MiG-29A and 6 MiG-29UB

Is not cited.

So did you go and count them? Maybe you have such connections, even I don't.
 

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Yup... Which brings me back to bucky's earlier post about "MYBB hero Miss Lindsey" which is completely unmoored from reality.

MyBB liberals detest him, and MAGA conservatives on this forum only have time for Lindsey when he's sucking up to their golden calf, and trying to overturn GA election results.

And I would venture to say none of these people are actual Americans. ;)
 

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The guy has effectively been in power for 22 years, rules one of the most corrupt countries in the world but am absolutely sure he never took a ruble for himself. :rolleyes:
Correct.

Within his first year as the head of the Committee for External Relations of the Mayor's Office in St. Petersburg, he was found to be corrupt and was recommended to be fired from his job. He was involved in some dealings totalling around $100 Million.

He was never fired though. He was in that job from 1991 to 1996.

He is ex-KGB and was in charge of taking care of the files in East Germany as the wall fell. I am sure he gained sufficient leverage to keep himself in that job.
 

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This is an example of Western naivety. That's also common among many of you guys here. If only we change Putin or if Navalny comes along... etc. Nope. Russia needs a major paradigm change. They have to abandon their empire and that's a very very long way off.

Even the Telegraph doesn't understand things. At their most recent Ukraine podcast they were going on about funds for Ukrainian reconstruction and attracting investment. But pray tell who in his right mind would invest in a country where the war has only been temporarily frozen? Without solid security guarantees which will require the US, Ukraine will not want to talk truce and investment won't come.
 

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Danish government establishes $1 bln fund to aid Ukraine​

The Danish government and a broad majority of parties in Denmark’s parliament have agreed to establish a fund of 7 billion Danish crowns ($1.01 billion) for civil, military and business aid to Ukraine, the finance ministry has said.

It will mean NOTHING without a real, solid security guarantee from the United States and other countries in the region. However, the US would be the keystone of such a guarantee. A guarantee akin to the one given to Finland and Sweden. Nobody will invest in Ukraine is such does not materialise.
 

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Don't forget about Bill Browder (not a Russian oligarch, but like the Russian oligarchs, looted Russia). One of the biggest crooks and some pro-Ukie white supremacists here just loooove to quote that criminal.

But you're pro looting of Russia. Your Kremlin has been supporting it and even using these oligarchs as fronts for Russian peoples' money.
 

rambo919

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The same guys who are still in charge, still sending the poor to their deaths, this time in Ukraine.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

They had their experiment with plutocrats and it became so dysfunctional someone like Putin had to step in and take control.

This is just how Russians are but now at least they don't have Communism weighing them down anymore. Putin effectively is a new Tzar the same way Stalin was. And that's fine if that's what the Russians want. If nothing else Putin's Russia is more functional than Stalin's Russia and the gulags which apparently are still operational do not operate on quota's anymore so there is a great improvement by itself.

I really do not see the point in insulting the man all the time as if it actually accomplishes anything. But then again I am not an old woman with an uncomfortable wet panty so what do I know.... I mean.... does he ever read all the insults people throw at him?

When we insult Rhamamparra and Mr Showerpower at least we can laugh about it without getting heartburn from bitterness. What I get from you guys regarding Putin is.... freakishly personal. You people are weird man.
 

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10/10. At least you are good at two things. Trolling and lying.
The current status quo in Russia that is waging war in Ukraine is filled to the brim of oligarchs and apparatchiks who have looted and corrupted their way to the positions of power.
 

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The current status quo in Russia that is waging war in Ukraine is filled to the brim of oligarchs and apparatchiks who have looted and corrupted their way to the positions of power.
Same is true on the other side.....
 

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Well no, that's not proof of anything because this source:

In the Polish Air Force inventory there are 22 MiG-29A and 6 MiG-29UB

Is not cited.

So did you go and count them? Maybe you have such connections, even I don't.

Yes I went and counted and then posted the numbers in all the articles like this one.


Sorry you don't have connections like me, you should work on it.
 
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