Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

ForceFate

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Moscow needs to be ‘more careful’ in international airspace: US​

US officials told Russia’s ambassador to the United States that Moscow has to be more careful when flying in international airspace, White House spokesman John Kirby.
The State Department summoned Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, for the first time since the war began to express US concerns over the incident.
“The message that we delivered to the Russian ambassador is that they need to be more careful in flying in international airspace near US assets that are, again, flying in completely legal ways, conducting missions in support of our national security interests,” Kirby said in an interview with CNN.
“They’re the ones that need to be more careful.”
Kirby added the MQ-9 surveillance drone had not been recovered and may never be, given the depth of the Black Sea where it went down.
The US are being unusually diplomatic. I think they did well by de-escalating the situation. They're going to send another drone to the same area.
 

buka001

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Contrast Russia in the miserable 1990's:
Virtually bankrupt, mass poverty, western backed asset stripping with the proceeds going to New York, Switzerland, London and Tel Aviv; president a drunken western backed puppet; with
Russia soon after Putin came in:
Economic growth accelerated significantly; millions lifted out of poverty; socio-economic improvement, the hated oligarchs brought to heel; able to stand up for itself internationally and form alliances like BRICS, etc.

It's not hard to see why the Russian people supported Putin, and mostly still do.
What are you on about?

The oligarchs wealth has grown exponentially since the 1990's. Unless you mean being brought to heel = giving better access to plunder state resources?
 

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I still see virtue signalling with "anti-semitism" and "white supremacy" thrown in.
Russian president Vladimir Putin bought an apartment for his beloved teacher Mina Yuditskia Berliner, who taught Putin in high school in St. Petersburg
Before immigrating to Israel in 1973, Yuditskaya Berliner, now 93, was Vladimir Putin’s German teacher at St. Petersburg’s High School 281, she recently told the Israeli news site Ynet.

Putin, she revealed, even bought her the small Tel Aviv apartment where she now lives.
“As we were walking to have tea, he told me: ‘You see, I’m bald now’,” she told Ynet. “I replied: ‘I can see that.’” At the reception, Putin introduced her to then Israeli president Moshe Katzav.

Shortly after the meeting, Yuditskaya Berliner, who is a widow, began receiving gifts: A watch and Putin’s autographed 2000 biography. Shortly after that, an employee of the Russian government showed up at her doorstep and took her to see some apartments in the center of Tel Aviv, she told Ynet.

“I told him all I needed was a flat that would be near the bus station, the market and to kuppat holim,” she told Ynet, using the Hebrew term for a health maintenance organization. “It all happened fast from there on; a few months later the movers came to my [rented] apartment in Florentine [in southern Tel Aviv], packed everything up and moved me,” she said.

Sounds way anti-semitic... :laugh:
 

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Russian MoD statement regarding the US Reaper Drone On the morning of March 14. over the waters of the Black Sea in the area of the Crimean peninsula, the airspace control of the Russian Aerospace Forces recorded the flight of an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation.

The flight of the unmanned aerial vehicle was carried out with transponders turned off in violation of the boundaries of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace, established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation, brought to all users of international airspace and published in accordance with international standards.

In order to identify the intruder, fighters from the air defense forces on duty were raised into the air. As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9.30 (Moscow time), the MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle went into uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface. Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons, did not come into contact with an unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to their base airfield.
The Pentagon says they have video footage of the incident. As if Moscow's use of the word "provocation" wasn't enough proof that Russia's telling yet another big fat lie.
 

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Sure, and they should fkoff from Ukrainian waters

Russia will ‘no longer allow anybody to violate our waters’: Ambassador​

Russia’s ambassador to the United States said he had told Washington that Russia would “no longer allow anybody to violate our waters”, the TASS news agency reported.
US and Russian officials have given conflicting accounts of what occurred on Tuesday between the MQ-9 Reaper drone and two Russian Su-27 fighter jets deployed to intercept the US aircraft.
Washington said a jet had struck the drone’s propeller, while Russia denied that contact had been made and said the drone had moved erratically.
 

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Russian president Vladimir Putin bought an apartment for his beloved teacher Mina Yuditskia Berliner, who taught Putin in high school in St. Petersburg



Sounds way anti-semitic... :laugh:

Anything is possible on such a scale.


But you're still virtue signalling.
 

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The US drone was purposefully brought down:

Several facts prove that the Reaper was intentionally attacked. First of all, the whole action was carried out by two Su-27 aircraft for at least several minutes continuously and in various ways. So the Russian pilots received a clear order to force the drone to land, and it was carried out. In the first place, the Russians probably used the EW system that they had on board their fighters, perhaps specially added, but to no effect.

Secondly, fuel was dropped from fighter jets on the drone several times, which, according to some commentators, was supposed to "blind" the optoelectronic UAV observation system, and according to others, it was supposed to ignite or damage the engine flooded with aviation gasoline. When this measure did not work either, one of the pilots flew to the drone and damaged its propeller, and he did it not by accident, but on a clear order from his command, because the war in Ukraine shows that the Russian military does not act alone, but only on orders or with tacit consent.

No pilot would risk destroying his plane knowing what awaits him for such arbitrariness, especially in times of war and in front of witnesses. In addition, it was very dangerous, because there was a collision with a large aircraft (with a wingspan of 20 m and a length of 11 m) at a high cruising speed of the drone - over 300 km/h. It is unlikely that the Russian pilot collided with the drone by accident. Who has flown knows.

English translated link:
https://defence24-pl.translate.goog...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
 

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Kudos to Russia for not letting Ukraine hold onto that title..

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Good for them, at least they are the best at something.
 

rambo919

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If Cyril or Jacob invaded another country causing that much misery and death, I reckon the things said about them would be a lot darker (and rightfully so)
Nah that was Mbeki.... it's just that no one talks about it because both times the SADF got repulsed and humiliated.

Now that I think about it I think the one time it was St Mandela....
 

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What are you on about?

The oligarchs wealth has grown exponentially since the 1990's. Unless you mean being brought to heel = giving better access to plunder state resources?

The original 1990's oligarchs used criminal methods - including mafiya tactics and intimidation, rigged no-contest auctions of state assets, tricked their workers (who were naive) out of shares etc. Much of the proceeds were sent to New York, London and Tel Aviv. This was during the chaotic Yeltsin years when Russia's economic landscape was known as the Wild East. These oligarchs were brought to heel by Putin - most famously Boris Berezovsky and Mikhail Khodorkovsky. But also others.

Later under Putin there was a much larger group of businessmen who participated in the economy and had access to opportunities - and the general level of prosperity for ordinary Russians rose significantly too. These are undeniable facts and a matter of record.

No I am not saying that corruption was eliminated, there is probably still a relatively high level of corruption in Russia, but it is certainly better than in the 1990's.
 
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