Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part3

[TEXTILE GUY]

When the Russian forces arrive at a city or town it doesn't just magically become theirs. They have to capture the entire city or town and remove all resistance before they can claim victory.

That's the part Vladimir P didn't quite understand

 

[Mirai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553309526505439232

google translate

85 years ago on this day, July 30, 1937, emergency "troikas" of the NKVD of the USSR received the right to pass death sentences on enemies of the people.

A very correct, important and necessary decision was made, which is so lacking now! Enemies, all evil spirits divorced like lice in the trenches!

They're keeping it there for people to see what the Russia's government is saying. This is great PR. Keep those posts coming RF. If it's edited then it looks like Russia is squeaky clean and people think that RF is the victim. This way we can see them call for murder in 1940s like Stalinist like show trials.

Good for Twitter.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

More vapourware:

The Russian leader also praised Tsar Peter the Great for making Russia a great sea power and said Russia had signed a new doctrine today explaining national economic interests.

Fark, how old are those boats if Peter the Great had a hand in building them????

LOL - wait, Vlad is talking shidt again

 

[Blu82]

The F-22 has a superior radar and stealth though. Yes the F-35 is a ground attack aircraft but if you can't achieve air superiority you can't use the F-35. Yes the F-22 can get additional advantages from F-35 but even the US has said that F-22 is the best fighter in the world. The F-22 also has a support system and actually costs more to support and maintain.

Note that high speeds were in the original 5th Gen fighter criteria but were omitted to let the F-35 in to be called a 5th gen fighter.

F-22 would have issues delivering nuclear weapons, it is possible to do it but the F-35 is more geared for this role.

I haven't looked in a while but can the RUSSIA Su supper cruise yet?

 

[Mirai]

 

[Mirai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553402454473117697

Even Nazis co-operated with the Red Cross. Russia is worse than Hitler. Did they not have enough time to tamper with the evidence?

 

[tetrasect]

More vapourware:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the Russian navy will receive hypersonic Zircon cruise missiles within the next few months.
The Russian leader also praised Tsar Peter the Great for making Russia a great sea power and said Russia had signed a new doctrine today explaining national economic interests.

 

[Mirai]

How did Russia get USSR's permanent seat on UN Security Council?

The Ukranian conflict has seen some ask if Russia is legitimately entitled to the Soviet Union's seat on the Council

www.rte.ie

 

[Mirai]

A Russian Mountain Brigade Is Having A Hard Time In Mountainless Southern Ukraine

In Ukraine, the 34th Mountain MRB is fighting on the flat, open terrain of southern Ukraine’s Kherson Oblast. Worse, the brigade now includes a contingent of unhappy Ukrainian separatists.

www.forbes.com

 

[Mirai]

Great sea power? Like Brits traveled from far away and kicked their butt in Crimean War? And then Japanese kicked their butt in 1905? And thanks to this butt kicking we had Japan join Hitler in WW2, otherwise the Japanese imperialists would not have had the confidence to do this.

 

[tetrasect]

I haven't looked in a while but can the RUSSIA Su supper cruise yet?

Only vertically, into the ground.

 

[vaakseun]

The Russian leader also praised Tsar Peter the Great for making Russia a great sea power.

Whereas Tsar Vlad the Mad, now has the distinction of losing a flagship and several other Navy vessels to a country without even a proper navy and making Russia, a not so great sea power.

 

[ForceFate]

Whereas Tsar Vlad the Mad now has the distinction of losing a flagship and several other Navy vessels to a country without even a proper navy and making Russia, a not so great sea power.

His propaganda machinery is broken.

 

[sefeddt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552929977968074753

Ukraine has the manpower, what they lack is equipment.

Putin's side said a number of times they were prepared to negotiate, but Zelensky did not make any attempts at what had originally been discussed back in March.

Propaganda indeed, lies - perhaps. And one does not even have to want to negotiate with Putin, but there is currently no movement to even remotely try and stop the atrocities.

Let's work/make proposals towards ceasefire and then see what happens.

Putin's side also said that in order for them to allow a human corridor out of Mariupol the Ukrainian defenders must surrender and the civilians can only use the corridor to Russian held territory including going through a filtration process. Eventually a corridor to Ukraine held territory was arranged but was attacked by Russian forces.

Ukraine says Russian forces shelling humanitarian corridor out of Mariupol it promised not to attack | Business Insider

Both Ukraine and Russia announced a safe corridor to the besieged city on Tuesday. Shortly afterwards, Ukraine said Putin's forces were shelling it.

www.businessinsider.co.za

 

[Blu82]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553691122563694595

 

[Blu82]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553691122563694595

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553695740228157447

 

[Blu82]

So Russia has now started assassinating civilians to attack Ukranian grain trade.

 

[flytek]

Ukraine has the manpower, what they lack is equipment.

Putin's side also said that in order for them to allow a human corridor out of Mariupol the Ukrainian defenders must surrender and the civilians can only use the corridor to Russian held territory including going through a filtration process. Eventually a corridor to Ukraine held territory was arranged but was attacked by Russian forces.

Ukraine says Russian forces shelling humanitarian corridor out of Mariupol it promised not to attack | Business Insider

Both Ukraine and Russia announced a safe corridor to the besieged city on Tuesday. Shortly afterwards, Ukraine said Putin's forces were shelling it.

www.businessinsider.co.za

When the asovs were trapped at mariupol letting them out into ukraine dressed in civilian/womans clothing or whatever is not even an option. You cannot be that stupid.

 

[The Trutherizer]

The F-22 has a superior radar and stealth though. Yes the F-35 is a ground attack aircraft but if you can't achieve air superiority you can't use the F-35. Yes the F-22 can get additional advantages from F-35 but even the US has said that F-22 is the best fighter in the world. The F-22 also has a support system and actually costs more to support and maintain.

Note that high speeds were in the original 5th Gen fighter criteria but were omitted to let the F-35 in to be called a 5th gen fighter.

F-22 would have issues delivering nuclear weapons, it is possible to do it but the F-35 is more geared for this role.

Why America never sold the F-22 Raptor to foreign countries

On Friday, an F-22 Raptor fighter jet took off from Langley Air Force Base, Virginia, and shot down a Chinese spy balloon with an AIM-9 air-to-air missile

www.sandboxx.us

Unlike the vast majority of U.S. military aircraft, the F-22 was never designed to be exported. As such, it was packed with classified technology and produced through advanced production methodologies that the United States would rather keep close to the chest. To date, the U.S remains the leader in stealth aviation technologies the world over.

Well yeah. It's not an air superiority fighter. More or a long range slugger providing overwatch from a distance. However when flanked by and coupled with one or two large drones and drone swarm payloads as well as integration and coordination with ground based AA and ship based missile systems it might be hard to tell. Add to that the versatility of the different configurations for the various military forces, and I think we'll see it serving for a loong time.

The F-22 Raptor is still an air superiority monster.

And a sexy beast of note.

 

[vaakseun]

Great sea power? Like Brits traveled from far away and kicked their butt in Crimean War? And then Japanese kicked their butt in 1905? And thanks to this butt kicking we had Japan join Hitler in WW2, otherwise the Japanese imperialists would not have had the confidence to do this.

During the border war, our strike craft and submarines were operating virtually with impunity off the Angolan coast, despite the almost constant presence of Russian/USSR warships, torpedo boats and submarines in the Angolan waters and harbours.

The Russians just couldn't fathom that we could be so cheeky and how they couldn't catch or spot us, so they came up with all kinds of wild conspiracy theories. One of them was that we were using Japanese fishing trawlers to insert our "commandos" into Angola, which was of course complete bollocks.

I think the Japanese trawler captains must have wondered why they were so frequently stopped and searched and otherwise rudely treated in Angolan waters.

At one point, Ystervuis divers also had a unique opportunity to blow a Russian kilo class submarine out of the water in an Angolan port whilst giving UNITA the credit.

Unfortunately the sub was only spotted whilst the divers were swimming right past it on their way to a different target. The divers did surface and discuss the potential of re-targeting, but just changing the mission parameters and making a spur of the moment decision in such a high stress situation that could potentially draw SA into a direct conflict with the USSR was a bit too much for the commander, so the opportunity was passed off.