Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part3

[Cosmik Debris]

BBC’s Panorama exposes British war crimes in Afghanistan

The airing of <em>SAS Death Squads Exposed: A British War Crime?</em> comes at a sensitive time amid furious claims by Britain that Russia’s armed forces have committed multiple war crimes in Ukraine.

www.wsws.org

So, why hasn't a single soldier been charged by the ICC then?

 

[Nicodeamus]

Formulate the charge and present it to the UN then.

The ICC does not charge any permanent member of the security council.

 

[Nicodeamus]

So, why hasn't a single soldier been charged by the ICC then?

because the permanenet members aren't ever charged, the ICC is used for political expediency, it was setup that way. You have a naive understanding of international law.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

the assumingly few clinics would be easier to track down (or even blow up with a precision missle) than invading a country on the few weeks that the guy called Osama comes in?

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So the US had special forces roaming Afghanistan and B52 bombers hitting caves for nothing then? They could have waited at a clinic instead? You're showing your abysmal knowledge of the military Nico.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The ICC does not charge any permanent member of the security council.

Then formulate the charges against the soldiers and present it to the ICC. Name and shame them. Dare you.

 

[Nicodeamus]

So the US had special forces roaming Afghanistan and B52 bombers hitting caves for nothing then? They could have waited at a clinic instead? You're showing your abysmal knowledge of the military Nico.

honestly, the entire Afghanistan endeavour was one massive exercise in futility. The US left Afghanistan as they got it, and they achieved absolutely buggerol - the soldiers died for nothing. It was a nation building exercise from the start.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Then formulate the charges against the soldiers and present it to the ICC. Name and shame them. Dare you.

even the BBC is admitting to UK war crimes.

Panorama - SAS Death Squads Exposed: A British War Crime? July 2022 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people who felt Panorama’s investigation into SAS operatives in Afghanistan was biased against the armed forces.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Cosmik Debris]

because the permanenet members aren't ever charged, the ICC is used for political expediency, it was setup that way. You have a naive understanding of international law.

BS Nico. Every soldier knows they stand a chance of being charged before the ICC with a war crime. You know nothing about the military but blab your big mouth off spewing absolute shyte.

• Rules of War
  
  In situations of armed conflict I will abide by the rules of international humanitarian law as contained in the Geneva Conventions:
  
  I will fight only enemy combatants and attack only military objectives.
  
  I will employ methods of attack to achieve the military objective with the least amount of harm to civilian life and property.
  
  I will not attack or harm enemy personnel who surrender. I will disarm them and treat them as prisoners of war.
  
  I will not kill, torture or abuse prisoners of war.
  
  I will not alter weapons or ammunition for the deliberate purpose of increasing suffering.
  
  I will collect and care for the wounded, shipwrecked and sick, whether friend or foe.
  
  I will treat all civilians humanely.
  
  I will not tolerate or engage in rape or looting.
  
  I will respect all cultural objects and places of worship.
  
  I will respect all persons and objects bearing the Red Cross, Red Crescent and other recognised symbols of humanitarian agencies.
  
  I understand that disobeying these rules is a crime. It dishonours military personnel and their country, and makes them liable to punishment as war criminals. I will therefore report any violation of the rules to my superiors

 

[Cosmik Debris]

even the BBC is admitting to UK war crimes.

Panorama - SAS Death Squads Exposed: A British War Crime? July 2022 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people who felt Panorama’s investigation into SAS operatives in Afghanistan was biased against the armed forces.

www.bbc.co.uk

Then why aren't soldiers being charged?

 

[Nicodeamus]

BS Nico. Every soldier knows they stand a chance of being charged before the ICC with a war crime. You know nothing about the military but blab your big mouth off spewing absolute shyte.

• Rules of War
  
  In situations of armed conflict I will abide by the rules of international humanitarian law as contained in the Geneva Conventions:
  
  I will fight only enemy combatants and attack only military objectives.
  
  I will employ methods of attack to achieve the military objective with the least amount of harm to civilian life and property.
  
  I will not attack or harm enemy personnel who surrender. I will disarm them and treat them as prisoners of war.
  
  I will not kill, torture or abuse prisoners of war.
  
  I will not alter weapons or ammunition for the deliberate purpose of increasing suffering.
  
  I will collect and care for the wounded, shipwrecked and sick, whether friend or foe.
  
  I will treat all civilians humanely.
  
  I will not tolerate or engage in rape or looting.
  
  I will respect all cultural objects and places of worship.
  
  I will respect all persons and objects bearing the Red Cross, Red Crescent and other recognised symbols of humanitarian agencies.
  
  I understand that disobeying these rules is a crime. It dishonours military personnel and their country, and makes them liable to punishment as war criminals. I will therefore report any violation of the rules to my superiors

Show me one instance of the ICC holding an American or British soldier accountable. International laws apply for expediency, it's generally applied to those who are defeated.

 

[Paulsie]

Same reason Putin ordered his invasion when Ukraine actually had nothing to do with that attack on Moscow.

I think that was actually his point.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

honestly, the entire Afghanistan endeavour was one massive exercise in futility. The US left Afghanistan as they got it, and they achieved absolutely buggerol - the soldiers died for nothing. It was a nation building exercise from the start.

Your opinion. My sons opinion differs. And he was helping Afghans escape when the Taliban took over again. What have you ever done for those in imminent danger of losing their lives?

 

[Nicodeamus]

Then why aren't soldiers being charged?

They might be charged before a UK miltiary tribunal, but the chances of them getting to the ICC is next to zero. It doesn't have juristiction or enforceability. Remember when the ANC ignored that clown from Sudan?

 

[Mirai]

First of all, the evidence that Ben Laden was responsible was poor and still is, but even if so, all that they could have done is phone the few clinics in Afghanistan that does a routine Kidney Dialysis and ask "hey is there a guy called Osama coming in next week?".

bin Laden's Al Qaeda had bombed Americans as far back as 1998 and bin Laden moved the Al Qaeda to Afghanistan in 1996.

Bergen, Peter L. (2021). The Rise and Fall of Osama Bin Laden. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-9821-7052-3.

The Taliban hated Ben Laden as the US put him in there to fight to soviet union (your war criminal hero Brezinski is responsible for that one).

Brzezinski is not a war criminal. Thanks to him mllions of people in Eastern Europe are free and don't live among Russian nuclear weapons targeted by NATO nuclear weapons. That's your opinion and your anti-Western Slavic bigotry coming out. He's a good guy for many people in Europe.

Secondly the Al Qaeda was operating from Sudan prior to that.

If Soviet Union had not murdered 2 million Afghans in their invasion of Afghanistan then maybe the world would have been different.

Keep on supporting the Russians. Keep on hating on the Eastern Europeans.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Your opinion. My sons opinion differs. And he was helping Afghans escape when the Taliban took over again. What have you ever done for those in imminent danger of losing their lives?

I taught and worked with a lot of refugees from Syria and Afghanistan, they fled from places that tough guys like your son blew up. I would never forget one guy, the Russians killed his father and then the Americans came to blow up his mother.

 

[Nicodeamus]

bin Laden's Al Qaeda had bombed Americans as far back as 1998 and bin Laden moved the Al Qaeda to Afghanistan in 1996.

Bergen, Peter L. (2021). The Rise and Fall of Osama Bin Laden. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-9821-7052-3.



Brzezinski is not a war criminal. Thanks to him mllions of people in Eastern Europe are free and don't live among Russian nuclear weapons targeted by NATO nuclear weapons. That's your opinion and your anti-Western Slavic bigotry coming out. He's a good guy for many people in Europe.

Secondly the Al Qaeda was operating from Sudan prior to that.

If Soviet Union had not murdered 2 million Afghans in their invasion of Afghanistan then maybe the world would have been different.

Keep on supporting the Russians. Keep on hating on the Eastern Europeans.

Brezinski armed the Mujahadeen and the blow back (if we accept the official story) is 9/11 and the wars on terror that followed. He bears responsibility for being shortsighted. There were other ways to engage with the Soviet Union like William Cassay who flooded the price of oil.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Show me one instance of the ICC holding an American or British soldier accountable. International laws apply for expediency, it's generally applied to those who are defeated.

The inhumane treatment of persons charge faced by the three is being brought as a war crime charge under the International Criminal Court Act (ICCA) 2001. The court martial, at the Military Court Centre at Bulford Camp on Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire, is the first time British military personnel have been prosecuted under the act.

BBC NEWS | UK | British soldier admits war crime

news.bbc.co.uk

Lynndie Rana England (born November 8, 1982) is a former United States Army Reserve soldier who was prosecuted for mistreating detainees during the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse that occurred at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad during the Iraq War. She was one of 11 military personnel from the 372nd Military Police Company who were convicted in 2005 for war crimes.

Lynndie England - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Paulsie]

@Cosmik Debris, @Nicodeamus

Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part3​

A small diversion (related or otherwise) is acceptable. This has gone on for 2 pages.

 

[Mirai]

the assumingly few clinics would be easier to track down (or even blow up with a precision missle) than invading a country on the few weeks that the guy called Osama comes in?

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www.washingtonpost.com

You do know Nico, not being a doctor, that people can survive on dialysis for decades?

How Long Can Someone Be On Dialysis?

The length of time depends on many things such as age, gender, other health problems, and how well you follow your treatment plan.

www.kidney.org

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Brezinski armed the Mujahadeen and the blow back (if we accept the official story) is 9/11 and the wars on terror that followed. He bears responsibility for being shortsighted. There were other ways to engage with the Soviet Union like William Cassay who flooded the price of oil.

Engage with the Soviets? Like have them invade you?