Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part3

[rambo919]

Some of the biggest rooigevaar people are now the biggest Russia supporters.

Except we don't support Russia.... you just pretend we do.

 

[rambo919]

Putin made it quite clear with his Peter the Great reference, he aims to take back territory. But you are saying it's about Nazis and Imperialists? Do you disagree with Putin's motives then?

It is unclear how much of that is for show and how much is BS.

We don't really know yet what Russia's long term motives are.

It's possible that this is merely training for a blitz through Europe to destabalize it and remove that threat, maybe not. It all depends on how all the alliances come together in the end, how Russia's hand is forced.

 

[capd]

Putin made it quite clear with his Peter the Great reference, he aims to take back territory. But you are saying it's about Nazis and Imperialists? Do you disagree with Putin's motives then?

I don’t care about who said what or quotes. When I do I need full speeches and context. To the point all it takes is an adult with life experience to think in order to understand provocation, outcomes, retaliation, geopolitics, etc.

 

[rambo919]

A blitz throughout Europe huh. So just take over all Europe. Europe has nuclear weapons by the way.

Yeah ok.

No, I did not say they would stay.

And nukes are not an inevitability such a conflict.

 

[The Trutherizer]

Scott Ritter sounds like a hack. But a pro-Russian hack so pro-Russian haters of Ukrainians will use him.

Seems more like he'll just say whatever somebody pays him to say to me. There are tons such career "influencers" mercilessly pounding away at the sensibilities of a large portion of voters in some countries. And of course there's a fair amount of leakage into other countries.

 

[rambo919]

I am just going to assume from now that you are either trolling or have been playing too many computer games. Have a nice day.

So because you cannot parse what I say you insult me.... classy.

 

[ToxicBunny]

So because you cannot parse what I say you insult me.... classy.

I don't think anyone with more than 2 neurons can align the crap you spew with reality.

 

[sefeddt]

Intense.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540228535784202240

 

[Major Boredom]

Except we don't support Russia.... you just pretend we do.

Pull the other leg.....
You and others in this thread have made your support very clear in your posts

 

[buka001]

Except we don't support Russia.... you just pretend we do.

I must have missed the posts you wrote where you have called out Russia for the same things you call America or Ukraine out for.

America invaded Iraq and stole their oil! Cue loads of shouting and anger.

Russia invaded Ukraine and stole their Natural Gas resources ... Silence. Like I could hear a pin drop on a fluffy carpet silence.

 

[buka001]

I don’t care about who said what or quotes. When I do I need full speeches and context. To the point all it takes is an adult with life experience to think in order to understand provocation, outcomes, retaliation, geopolitics, etc.

So what you are saying is you don't want to hear any contradictory facts and evidence that counters your narrative, so you can keep feeling that Russia is good here.

 

[Cray]

Except we don't support Russia.... you just pretend we do.

It's not what you say, it's what you don't say. Care to point out one post of yours aimed at Russia with anything remotely resembling the vitriol you throw at Ukraine, Zelensky and the US?

 

[capd]

So what you are saying is you don't want to hear any contradictory facts and evidence that counters your narrative, so you can keep feeling that Russia is good here.

I really don't care about Russia. I care about innocent people who have been used as cannon fodder.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I really don't care about Russia. I care about innocent people who have been used as cannon fodder.

How can you not care about Russia given the second sentence in your post?

 

[capd]

How can you not care about Russia given the second sentence in your post?

Still having trouble understanding who cast the first stone, are we?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Still having trouble understanding who cast the first stone, are we?

No, I have no trouble understanding who cast the first stone.

 

[capd]

No, I have no trouble understanding who cast the first stone.

Then I don't understand why you waste your time by asking for clarification on the Imperialist and Nazi first stone casters. Guess you have plenty of it.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Then I don't understand why you waste your time by asking for clarification on the Imperialist and Nazi first stone casters. Guess you have plenty of it.

Well I did ask you for clarification on who these Imperialist and Nazi's are, which you blithely ignored. Mind responding to that question?

 

[ForceFate]

State Duma deputy warns US Embassy in Kyiv will “sooner or later” be a military target

Denys Karlovsky — Thursday, 23 June 2022, 20:38

www.pravda.com.ua

Yury Shvytkin, Russian State Duma deputy and Deputy Chairman of the Committee on National Defence, has said that Russia should launch a missile strike on the US embassy building in Kyiv in response to the supply of HIMARS launchers to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


Source: Shvytkin in a comment to the Russian media outlet "Lenta.ru"


Quote from Shvytkin: "This (supply of HIMARS – UP) once again highlights the step-by-step movement towards World War III by the United States. It should be understood that we must react harshly. In my opinion, the reaction today should also apply to those countries that supply weapons (to Ukraine – UP).


And this isn’t just about destroying infrastructure or anything, but I think the main decision-making centre is the US embassy. I think that sooner or later it will become a target for the Russian Armed Forces, the national police of the "DPR" and "LPR".


My position is that the government quarter in Kyiv should be destroyed, the relevant locations should be destroyed. Yes, this work is being done by the Ministry of Defence (of Russia – UP) but it is necessary to launch more massive strikes.


We will not simply look at this outrage. When they hit one cheek, we won't turn the other."

Details: Shvytkin is most concerned that when using the HIMARS installation as an operational-tactical missile system, its range will be more than 195 kilometres. In his opinion, the Ukrainian military-political leadership will use these systems to strike the territory of the Russian Federation.

According to American journalists, the US government has decided to provide only the type of ammunition which allows the use of HIMARS as multiple rocket launchers with a range of about 80 km.

At the same time, the Russian deputy boasted that the Russian army allegedly has plenty of air defence resources and electronic warfare equipment that can interfere with American launchers.

Note: Himars (High-Mobility Artillery Rocket System) is a modern, multifunctional complex on a wheeled chassis. The U.S. Army used them during the 2003 Iraq military campaign and the Gulf War.

Background:

• According to the military intelligence service of Ukraine, 44 "Kalibr" cruise missiles on Russian warships in the Black Sea are ready to launch.
• Ukraine’s Minister of Defence Oleksii Reznikov reported on the morning of 23 June that the first HIMARS complexes are already on the front line in Ukraine.
• These complexes were transferred as part of the US government’s $700 million aid package.
• Bridget Brink, US ambassador to Ukraine, said in early June that the Ukrainian military command would independently determine the strike range of these systems. On 30 May, President Biden said that the United States would not provide Ukraine with weapons capable of striking targets on the territory of Russia.
• On 18 May, diplomatic staff resumed work at the US embassy in Kyiv.

Wouldn't that be a declaration of war against the US?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Wouldn't that be a declaration of war against the US?

It could be taken that way, but I doubt the US are so fragile in their ego to take it that way.