SA’s black population considering emigration — survey

[ForceFate]

No for medical school they have 8 As for other health disciplines they have 6 or more.

Where do you get 8 A's if your school offers no kore than 7 subjects?

Internship lad. In the real world where we train them in AN ACTUAL hospital

 

[Herr der Verboten]

War Room 2.0?

To conjure up wit gevaar 10.0?

 

[ForceFate]

No for medical school they have 8 As for other health disciplines they have 6 or more.

Where do you get 8 A's if your school offers no more than 7 subjects?

Internship lad. In the real world where we train them in AN ACTUAL hospital

 

[ForceFate]

What? No dishwasher?

Dishwasher for 2 people?

 

[wingnut771]

To conjure up wit gevaar 10.0?

Presidency clarifies Deputy President's role in Eskom War Room

Pretoria - The Presidency has moved to clarify Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa’s work in the Eskom War Room.

www.sanews.gov.za

 

[ForceFate]

Come on. White people were being told by their domestics that they were getting their houses after the elections and should prepare to move into Khayelitsha. I lived through that.

Lol. If that was the case and was their secret policy, then why did we not see Zim style seizures? Why was it not in right wing newspapers of the time? Why didn't right wing political parties of the time latch onto the stories?

 

[ForceFate]

Depends. Employment in the shack, none in the mud hut. Subsistence farming with droughts and floods in the mud hut vs supermarkets in the shack. Plenty more you can think of.

What employment? Poor rural folk have better options in the absence of jobs whereas a shack dweller's options in the city (in the absence of jobs or other opportunities can't do much more than rob others.

 

[ForceFate]

Particularly fast improvements in literacy took place across Northwest Europe in the period 1600-1800. As we discuss below, widespread literacy is considered a legacy of the Age of Enlightenment. ... For example, Bob Allen provides estimates of the evolution of literacy in Europe between 1500 and 1800 using data on urbanization rates. For more ...

Literacy

Being able to read and write opens up the world of education and knowledge. When and why did more people become literate? How can progress continue?

ourworldindata.org

Fast improvents doesn't necessarily mean everyone took up education. Most of the rural folk as well as poor urbanites were illiterate. Some were fortunate enough to be skilled in some craft, however.

Literacy

websites.umich.edu

 

[RiaX]

Where do you get 8 A's if your school offers no kore than 7 subjects?

Better have that extra circular lined up and those after school charity work to boost that application then. Then again you competing with the cream of the crop. If you not black don't have those As you screwed and your dreams of being a doctor are over in SA rather apply to study in China.

And the government expects the youth of today to go "oh well guess some old dude was oppressed like 4 decades ago so I gotta let people with half the accolades as me take my dream ... that's life yay I love this country"

Out of curiosity how many As you had and what degree/certification/diploma you did ?

 

[ForceFate]

Better have that extra circular lined up and those after school charity work to boost that application then.

This applies to all afaik. A relative's application was turned down much early in the selection process partly because of this.

Then again you competing with the cream of the crop. If you not black don't have those As you screwed your dreams of being a doctor are over in SA rather apply to study in China.

 

[wingnut771]

Seems like we going around in circles.

 

[RiaX]

This applies to all afaik. A relative's application was turned down much early in the selection process partly because of this.

As I've said I've trained more medical professionals than you know. I've seen their full academic records.

So no you don't know anything. Almost 2 thirds of a health science class must consist of black students. So if you white Indian or colour you competing with a 66% disadvantage for place

I find it interesting that you figure you can argue with someone who did this as a living for over a decade and a half. I've trained interns/doctors/registrars and students.

Perhaps you should look from the other person's perspective helps alot.

 

[ForceFate]

As I've said I've trained more medical professionals than you know. I've seen their full academic records.

So no you don't know anything. Almost 2 thirds of a health science class must consist of black students. So if you white Indian or colour you competing with a 66% disadvantage for place

I'm not a medical doctor of course. Will speak to one or 2 tomorrow (over 35 years experience between them).

 

[RiaX]

I'm not a medical doctor of course. Will speak to one or 2 tomorrow (over 35 years experience between them).

Make sure they not super old and not black and if they trust you enough they might tell you the truth or they might think you trying to trap them by trying to make them look racist.

I am also guilty of passing sub standard black professionals under pressure of qutoa laws. It's one of the reasons I left the DoH. There really isn't any point lying to you anonymously on the internet

I watched a guy become a specialist surgeon but he couldn't add or spell properly but quota has hit the highest tiers of medical education the registra programme.

The reason the entry requirements to medical school are so high is because the academic talent required for medicine is one of the highest. Disease doesn't care who you are its what you know

 

[Howdy]

Who called it a paradise? Why do you want to impose restrictions on their movements? Part of what was achieved in abolition of apartheid is freedom of movement in the country or abroad. If I feel like I can make more money in the UK, why shouldn't I?

Obviously you missed what he is trying to say.

If you feel that, all the best to you, I'd sincerely would love to see you succeed without 'the smirch'.

However, as it stands now, I question the need for BEE dooming black people to be second class winners at the hands of hobbled competition, forever under suspicion of being the beneficiaries of corruption, only succeeding because of BEE. Incidentally this insight is not mine, rather that of a black fire chief in NY ~25 years ago when they also tinkered with race based quotas etc and, despite reaching the pinnacle of his career, it was never seen as being based upon merit - that was his gripe and the inherent unfairness of race based opportunities.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Why do EFF members want to leave? What could possibly be better than being children of the soil?

 

[Howdy]

Most of Europe was illiterate back in the 16th century. Had it not been possible to colonise the world, do you think the wars at the time would have given Europe chance to develop? With what resources? Colonialism to some extend worked positively for both sides. Europe is where it is because of it. Africa developed to some extend because of it.

So, Aunty Helen was right after all?



/Yes we know, but we slated her because we don't like her, right?

 

[Howdy]

What? No dishwasher?

I remember all those promises, washing machines, houses. Personally I was one of those thinking "What idiot will believe it?"

 

[The Voice]

I’ve seen more black people year on year in Wimbledon Park for Heritage Day, so it’s been happening for a while.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

I’ve seen more black people year on year in Wimbledon Park for Heritage Day, so it’s been happening for a while.

The thing is - out of SA - we are all expats or South Africans.

In the New SA with our non racist non sexist multicultural democracy - we are put into a box - we are either South African or immigrant, black, white, Indian or bruin ous, English, Zulu, Afrikaans etc etc ......