SA’s black population considering emigration — survey

[Magnum]

Well i don’t have calculations of the corruption figures. I know enough cases from all races to conclude that it’s not a racial thing but a human greed thing.

Agrizzi is the only one who confessed.

I’m pretty sure if the country was run by Marcus Steinhof executes, Bosasa executes , KPMG executives etc it would still be a corrupt country.

Just like it was corrupt under apartheid government with government sunctioned killings, persecution of 80% of the population etc.

So my stance is all races can be and have corrupt people in them. If you think otherwise please post corruption figures that support the discrepancy you want to portray because it’s your claim not mine

There are and were checks and balances everywhere. When your checks become as corrupt as the perpetrator, You have serious problems.

 

[winner]

Yes, it's not the 1950's anymore.

So following your logic you can respect white women despite AA but you can’t respect black professionals because of AA? Can we just remove AA here because it doesn’t seem to be a factor.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

So following your logic you can respect white women despite AA but you can’t respect black professionals because of AA? Can we just remove AA here because it doesn’t seem to be a factor.

/565

 

[wingnut771]

So following your logic you can respect white women despite AA but you can’t respect black professionals because of AA? Can we just remove AA here because it doesn’t seem to be a factor.

Yes, remove AA.

 

[Harmonic]

So following your logic you can respect white women despite AA but you can’t respect black professionals because of AA? Can we just remove AA here because it doesn’t seem to be a factor.

Humans aren't necessarily binary. Our success as a species, over thousands and thousands of years, can be attributed to the ability to pattern match.

 

[winner]

Yes, remove AA.

You can go to a country with no AA. I’m sure your superior brain capacity will be appreciated. We will write another study about wingnut and equivalents emigrating because of AA.

That’s if you are even wanted anywhere

 

[wingnut771]

You can go to a country with no AA. I’m sure your superior brain capacity will be appreciated. We will write another study about wingnut and equivalents emigrating because of AA.

That’s if you are even wanted anywhere

**** off troll.

 

[Bobbin]

Yes, remove AA.

No why? The extra challenge forces me (white male) to be even more skilled and competent

 

[RiaX]

You should have never done that. Your professional ethics are important. It is a good thing you left.

My white colleague was forced to pass sub-white professionals under pressure and he refused. He asked me to intervene as a moderator and I stopped it right there to protect the integrity of my industry.

Thats the problem you cant fight the state on this matter. We've tried and lost. As I said earlier even the director of the HPCSA lost

 

[RiaX]

Oh my oh my.

blacks who kicked your ass in varsity or mentored you at work?

uhm ok ? so that means what exactly ? I see you failed to comprehend my posts, guess we found a 30 percenter. Stunning skills really wow. Though I can see why you defending the policy....

Perhaps I should spell it out:

NOBODY IS CLAIMING ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND CANNOT BE COMPETENT, INTELLECTUAL OR EXPERTS.

I can tell you that I’m still supervising interns now

Supervising what exactly ? Hope nothing medical because your comprehension skills are equal to that of a door knob. If it is medical then guess what you proved my point

About your Matric figures well I can’t argue with that but as it stands blacks in medical schools don’t make 40% of the professionals but the make the absolute majority of those working in rural areas where some races are too good to work in

Firstly professionals should never be determined by race and rather purely on ability. Secondly people who refuse to work in $hit hole places is not a character failure on them but rather failure of this government that you seem to defend and worship. Nobody likes bad working conditions and idiots like you allow government to get away with it by providing services in these toilets, thinking you doing something noble. Get your brown nose points good for you. The quantity of money stolen by ANC couldve improved these places to an acceptable condition to attract businesses and professionals. Again excellent comprehensive skills - too stupid to realise you've been duped.

why do you still think your As in grade 12 biology triumphs your hypothetical weaker score in varsity ?

Selection criteria. Please quote me saying high school biology > medical university courses ? (look @ that your comprehension fails again). If you think university levels haven't dropped to accommodate the trash coming from high school then you dreaming again.

 

[gimpex]

Rwanda.

Rwanda better now than 1962 ?

Might be better now than mid 1990s but better than early 60s ? How so ?

 

[Herr der Verboten]

You can go to a country with no AA. I’m sure your superior brain capacity will be appreciated. We will write another study about wingnut and equivalents emigrating because of AA.

That’s if you are even wanted anywhere

/566

 

[winner]

Oh my oh my.



uhm ok ? so that means what exactly ? I see you failed to comprehend my posts, guess we found a 30 percenter. Stunning skills really wow. Though I can see why you defending the policy....

Perhaps I should spell it out:

NOBODY IS CLAIMING ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND CANNOT BE COMPETENT, INTELLECTUAL OR EXPERTS.



Supervising what exactly ? Hope nothing medical because your comprehension skills are equal to that of a door knob. If it is medical then guess what you proved my point



Firstly professionals should never be determined by race and rather purely on ability. Secondly people who refuse to work in $hit hole places is not a character failure on them but rather failure of this government that you seem to defend and worship. Nobody likes bad working conditions and idiots like you allow government to get away with it by providing services in these toilets, thinking you doing something noble. Get your brown nose points good for you. The quantity of money stolen by ANC couldve improved these places to an acceptable condition to attract businesses and professionals. Again excellent comprehensive skills - too stupid to realise you've been duped.



Selection criteria. Please quote me saying high school biology > medical university courses ? (look @ that your comprehension fails again). If you think university levels haven't dropped to accommodate the trash coming from high school then you dreaming again.

So you don’t see anything with the government educating health professionals who don’t want to work in rural areas? What must people in rural areas do then? Go to Groote Schuur?

And you make it seem like there are people who were accepted into medical school despite them not meeting the minimum requirements. That’s total bullshit.

And if you think my comprehension is bad then I don’t know what you think about yourself

Here is what I gathered so far
Can’t trust blacks because of AA.
Can trust Indians and white females despite AA.
And this makes sense in your head

 

[Harmonic]

So you don’t see anything with the government educating health professionals who don’t want to work in rural areas? What must people in rural areas do then? Go to Groote Schuur?

And you make it seem like there are people who were accepted into medical school despite them not meeting the minimum requirements. That’s total bullshit.

And if you think my comprehension is bad then I don’t know what you think about yourself

Here is what I gathered so far
Can’t trust blacks because of AA.
Can trust Indians and white females despite AA.
And this makes sense in your head

Nothing is absolute. Weigh it on a scale of probability

 

[wingnut771]

So you don’t see anything with the government educating health professionals who don’t want to work in rural areas? What must people in rural areas do then? Go to Groote Schuur?

And you make it seem like there are people who were accepted into medical school despite them not meeting the minimum requirements. That’s total bullshit.

And if you think my comprehension is bad then I don’t know what you think about yourself

Here is what I gathered so far
Can’t trust blacks because of AA.
Can trust Indians and white females despite AA.
And this makes sense in your head

Only in your head because that's not what was said.

 

[RiaX]

So you don’t see anything with the government educating health professionals who don’t want to work in rural areas?

If you received a bursary then you must go. That is a return on investment. Government invested in these people therefore they must be stationed where needed. Dont force that nonsense on everyone.

What must people in rural areas do then? Go to Groote Schuur?

Shouldve changed their vote about 10 to 15 years ago.

And you make it seem like there are people who were accepted into medical school despite them not meeting the minimum requirements. That’s total bullshit.

Of course there are. There are people who HAVE repeated grade 12 and gotten 0 distinctions and were accepted into medical school. The academic point criteria is not fairly applied to all because of BEE. Lets not forget its not only medicine shall we talk about sports as well ?

Can’t trust blacks because of AA.

Yip. Cant trust their paper qualifications. Have no idea if they were they were just passed to meet the departments quota requirements. Must prove their worth further to gain my trust.

Can trust Indians and white females despite AA.

Ah you think BBBEE is applied evenly ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You got jokes bruh

BTW I like the way you okes divert.

Im still waiting for the list of achievements of modern south africa and why there are still $hit hole places where highly skilled professionals must "serve" in like some jail sentence before being allowed to practice freely.

It's shocking how you people can defend these policies. It really shows who the actual racists are. If we just change one word in that policy how you okes be up in arms burning tyres stoning vehicles blah blah blah

 

[RiaX]

Here's a fun fact for you guys. Did you know you not allowed to fail a student twice in school. It's seen by the department as holding the children back. You have to pass them even if they can't read or write.

I suggest you talk to some teachers. That's the best part of my job I learn all sorts of things and get all sorts of stories from all avenues of life listening to the patients life stories.

 

[winner]

Here's a fun fact for you guys. Did you know you not allowed to fail a student twice in school. It's seen by the department as holding the children back. You have to pass them even if they can't read or write.

I suggest you talk to some teachers. That's the best part of my job I learn all sorts of things and get all sorts of stories from all avenues of life listening to the patients life stories.

Rubbish. My old high school had a policy that if you fail twice they chase you out. Hasn’t changed since then. Why do you make stuff up in your head and end up believing them? There are people who repeat one grade until they quit.

 

[winner]

If you received a bursary then you must go. That is a return on investment. Government invested in these people therefore they must be stationed where needed. Dont force that nonsense on everyone.



Shouldve changed their vote about 10 to 15 years ago.




Of course there are. There are people who HAVE repeated grade 12 and gotten 0 distinctions and were accepted into medical school. The academic point criteria is not fairly applied to all because of BEE. Lets not forget its not only medicine shall we talk about sports as well ?



Yip. Cant trust their paper qualifications. Have no idea if they were they were just passed to meet the departments quota requirements. Must prove their worth further to gain my trust.



Ah you think BBBEE is applied evenly ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You got jokes bruh

BTW I like the way you okes divert.

Im still waiting for the list of achievements of modern south africa and why there are still $hit hole places where highly skilled professionals must "serve" in like some jail sentence before being allowed to practice freely.

It's shocking how you people can defend these policies. It really shows who the actual racists are. If we just change one word in that policy how you okes be up in arms burning tyres stoning vehicles blah blah blah

It’s not applied evenly because the maximum benefit goes to black females. Black by AA rules include Africans, Indians and coloureds.

As for if you are serving your bursary? Dude you are embarrassing yourself. you serve your bursary for the time they paid for you excluding internship. Basically majority of doctors above 35 yrs are not serving anymore.

As for modern achievements, why do you think people must achieve something but not you? Are you inadequate?

 

[ForceFate]

Here's a fun fact for you guys. Did you know you not allowed to fail a student twice in school. It's seen by the department as holding the children back. You have to pass them even if they can't read or write.

Cut off age for matric is 21. Beyond that students are kicked out of regular school system.

I suggest you talk to some teachers. That's the best part of my job I learn all sorts of things and get all sorts of stories from all avenues of life listening to the patients life stories.

Condonation is allowed in the lower grades, provided you meet certain requirements. Furthermore, those who reach Grade 12 this way often don't do well in matric, let alone get university admission grading.