SA’s black population considering emigration — survey

[wingnut771]

Suffering from the same disease as @wingnut771

Let me help.
False claims and attributions

This was a response to my "I don't make laws" post. I'm not a supporter of political parties. I understand why certain laws exist in their current form, and why a different political party might amend them in future.

Where was I cryptic, especially with regards to the subtopic under discussion?

So, let me bring you to the attention of something I highlighted above.

Poor implementation, whether deliberate or not.

So you agree BEE is past its sell by date?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Lol. If that was the case and was their secret policy, then why did we not see Zim style seizures? Why was it not in right wing newspapers of the time? Why didn't right wing political parties of the time latch onto the stories?

It wasn't the truth. It was what the domestics were told by the ANC. Remember free electricity was promised too?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Fast improvents doesn't necessarily mean everyone took up education. Most of the rural folk as well as poor urbanites were illiterate. Some were fortunate enough to be skilled in some craft, however.

Literacy

websites.umich.edu

Unfortunately for your argument, this is the fact:

Particularly fast improvements in literacy took place across Northwest Europe in the period 1600-1800. As we discuss below, widespread literacy is considered a legacy of the Age of Enlightenment. ... For example, Bob Allen provides estimates of the evolution of literacy in Europe between 1500 and 1800 using data on urbanization rates.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I find it interesting that you figure you can argue with someone who did this as a living for over a decade and a half. I've trained interns/doctors/registrars and students.

This is MyBB. You don't need any experience at all here to argue with those who have qualified and worked in their respective environments for decades.

And if you don't like what you're being told, just deny the person is qualified and accuse them of lying and having never worked in their respective fields of expertise.

 

[RiaX]

I'm curious as to end of 1st yr exam reports - are those with lower entry requirements managing to get through?

Yes because the courses have gotten way easier. Just like how matric has gotten way easier. Entire mathematical blocks have been dropped from pharmacy. The interns where coming out of universities without knowing how to do cream dilutions or dose calculations. Imagine that a pharmacist that cannot make creams ..... they basically came to us as blank slates. They don't even know the dose for paracetamol in children. Mothers can tell you that.

I used to lose my $hit with them got into trouble so many times. Then I just got over it to the point where if I see they not bothered to hell with it not my problem. I'd only train those that showed effort.

The department of higher education is meddling with the universities. Universities also adjust marks just like schools in order to make quota. If you really hopeless then you will get excluded.

If they do not produce x amount of black professionals then the department begins to query then you go in the same cycle we faced training interns. Your career and source income vs a lost cause.

Except it's far worse for an academic where you going to go if you fired for "discriminating" against black students ?

 

[ForceFate]

So you agree BEE is past its sell by date?

I clearly indicated my knowledge of BBBEE is rudimentary at best, and that it mostly serve the politicians and their cohorts. It would have worked if it was ever implemented properly. Additionally, there are multiple ways to circumvent it so its existence doesn't prevent new entrants to the business world.

 

[ForceFate]

It wasn't the truth. It was what the domestics were told by the ANC. Remember free electricity was promised too?

And no right wing political party or newspaper picked up the story?

 

[ForceFate]

Why not? You only need to start it every 3 days then. Or don't you have enough cutlery, crockery and cooking utensils?

Huh? It doesn't take a lifetime to use conventional methods.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Obviously idiots that a government or two deprive of an education.

Now it's the government's fault for the schools being burnt down in 1976?

 

[EADC]

Now it's the government's fault for the schools being burnt down in 1976?

I've missed your legendary stories tell us about being on the front lines fighting the poors burning the schools.

 

[RiaX]

Huh? It doesn't take a lifetime to use conventional methods.

No it doesn't. Though it's much more efficient to use a dishwasher than by hand. Dishwashers are also more hygienic as they wash at temperatures you can't handle.

Though I can't imagine leaving dishes on there for 3 days itll start stinking

But why we talking about dishwashers ?

 

[ForceFate]

No it doesn't. Though it's much more efficient to use a dishwasher than by hand. Dishwashers are also more hygienic as they wash at temperatures you can't handle.

Though I can't imagine leaving dishes on there for 3 days itll start stinking

But why we talking about dishwashers ?

I use bleach the wash water, and rinse crockery with hot water. Good enough for me. I don't need level of hygiene higher than that.

 

[Howdy]

I read about unicorns and mermaids. It does not mean they exist.

I read about many laws obviously meant to protect us, yet the implementation sucks. We call it South Africa.

Poor implementation, whether deliberate or not.

Yet accuses moi of suffering from a disease:

Suffering from the same disease as @wingnut771

But apparently not the same disease as @ForceFate ...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[wingnut771]

I clearly indicated my knowledge of BBBEE is rudimentary at best, and that it mostly serve the politicians and their cohorts. It would have worked if it was ever implemented properly. Additionally, there are multiple ways to circumvent it so its existence doesn't prevent new entrants to the business world.

You don't need to have intricate knowledge. Just read @RiaX's post posted at the same time as yours to see the actual hard evidence that the dumbed down education system is a failure and the BEE system is allowing it all to spew out and dumb down the economy.

 

[Howdy]

This is MyBB. You don't need any experience at all here to argue with those who have qualified and worked in their respective environments for decades.

And if you don't like what you're being told, just deny the person is qualified and accuse them of lying and having never worked in their respective fields of expertise.

 

[Grant]

Yes because the courses have gotten way easier. Just like how matric has gotten way easier. Entire mathematical blocks have been dropped from pharmacy. The interns where coming out of universities without knowing how to do cream dilutions or dose calculations. Imagine that a pharmacist that cannot make creams ..... they basically came to us as blank slates. They don't even know the dose for paracetamol in children. Mothers can tell you that.

I used to lose my $hit with them got into trouble so many times. Then I just got over it to the point where if I see they not bothered to hell with it not my problem. I'd only train those that showed effort.

The department of higher education is meddling with the universities. Universities also adjust marks just like schools in order to make quota. If you really hopeless then you will get excluded.

If they do not produce x amount of black professionals then the department begins to query then you go in the same cycle we faced training interns. Your career and source income vs a lost cause.

Except it's far worse for an academic where you going to go if you fired for "discriminating" against black students ?

I recall when initially at Wentworth hospital, as students we had to observe various procedures in cardiac theatre.
The perfusionist heading training told me he would quiz students each year.
His benchmark test would be that of having students identify organs lying in each of the 9 sectors of the torso.
Majority of students scored below 50%.
Those scoring less than 40% were given 7 days to brush up on anatomy and be retested.
Retest required minimum 60% score.

He would refuse to take on any student who failed the retest - they would have to secure training elsewhere.
Bara hosp would usually take, simply out of needing more hands on deck, tygerburg would sometimes take, groote schuur also refused.

And this was 25yrs back.

 

[Grant]

I use bleach the wash water, and rinse crockery with hot water. Good enough for me. I don't need level of hygiene higher than that.

And cutlery?

 

[ForceFate]

And cutlery?

Everything basically, except soft plastics.

 

[RiaX]

I use bleach the wash water, and rinse crockery with hot water. Good enough for me. I don't need level of hygiene higher than that.

Don't do that just use dish soap ...

Most people use dishwashers for convenience and savings.

 

[TheChamp]

This is MyBB. You don't need any experience at all here to argue with those who have qualified and worked in their respective environments for decades.

And if you don't like what you're being told, just deny the person is qualified and accuse them of lying and having never worked in their respective fields of expertise.

I blame the English language, if there was a way of telling someone they are a fraud and a charlatan without sounding rude I would use it, my more superior language is way more advanced in that regard.