SA’s black population considering emigration — survey

JuliusSeizure

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Like Wade Van Niekerk ?

I remember asking him about Kagiso Rabada when he last used the same lines verbatim and he said that even Rabada can't consider himself a non-quota even though anyone with half a braincell will know that Rabada is one of the best cricketers in the world who easily walks into the starting xi of any team. So even a black cricketer who is on a similar level as Kallis can't consider themselves a non-quota by his standards and note how these things are not as called out by the right on Mybb even though most of the sports fans here will know how idiotic it is.
 

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I remember asking him about Kagiso Rabada when he last used the same lines verbatim and he said that even Rabada can't consider himself a non-quota even though anyone with half a braincell will know that Rabada is one of the best cricketers in the world who easily walks into the starting xi of any team. So even a black cricketer who is on a similar level as Kallis can't consider themselves a non-quota by his standards and note how these things are not as called out by the right on Mybb even though most of the sports fans here will know how idiotic it is.
Says who...except this victimhood self perception of course?
 

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I remember asking him about Kagiso Rabada when he last used the same lines verbatim and he said that even Rabada can't consider himself a non-quota even though anyone with half a braincell will know that Rabada is one of the best cricketers in the world who easily walks into the starting xi of any team. So even a black cricketer who is on a similar level as Kallis can't consider themselves a non-quota by his standards and note how these things are not as called out by the right on Mybb even though most of the sports fans here will know how idiotic it is.

The man is legendary and easily one of the best fast bowlers ever produced by South Africa. He is truly world class.

He would've made it BEE or not with his abilities but he has had to prove himself further in the start to the fans because of quota. One of the adverse effects of BBBEE on black excellence.
 

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Says who...except this victimhood self perception of course?

I normally don't respond to you but will make an exception here.

Cosmik Debris said that so you should ask him (I mentioned that in the post if you read properly).

Note how you never question him or call him out.

Btw, do you have a keyword search turned on to give you alerts when the word "apartheid" comes up? You are evidently very quick to jump in when these conversations come up.
 

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I remember asking him about Kagiso Rabada when he last used the same lines verbatim and he said that even Rabada can't consider himself a non-quota even though anyone with half a braincell will know that Rabada is one of the best cricketers in the world who easily walks into the starting xi of any team. So even a black cricketer who is on a similar level as Kallis can't consider themselves a non-quota by his standards and note how these things are not as called out by the right on Mybb even though most of the sports fans here will know how idiotic it is.
The same could be said for Siya Kolisi, but then because of quota's you don't know.... the point with Wade (and others) is that he is the fastest person alive over 400 m.
So he proves the exception: "no black person", and he is definitely not the only one.

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TheMightyQuinn

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I normally don't respond to you but will make an exception here.

Cosmik Debris said that so you should ask him (I mentioned that in the post if you read properly).

Note how you never question him or call him out.

Oh well, I can say the same of all posts by champ.... forcefate...surface...eadc etc etc. So where does that leave the general conversation?

Btw, do you have a keyword search turned on to give you alerts when the word "apartheid" comes up? You are evidently very quick to jump in when these conversations come up.
Snap....

Again a pointless observation as it can just as easily be flipped onto you and YOUR posse...

Not that I need your approval of where and when I post of course...but go do a post count based on your "observation" and see how you and I compare in these threads.

You may be unpleasantly surprised.
 

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He would've made it BEE or not with his abilities but he has had to prove himself further in the start to the fans because of quota. One of the adverse effects of BBBEE on black excellence.

White players who were also not ready for international cricket were also put into the team but never got the same amount of scrutiny.

AB took a couple of years to get to legendary level. He was not totally convincing in the first few years of his career but the selectors persisted with him because they knew what he was capable of. Kallis was also apparently poor in his first few games. We all know how poor Amla was when he first came into the team but apparently Kallis was as poor at the start.

Even Elgar was very poor at the start and was not dropped.
 

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The same could be said for Siya Kholisi, but then because of quota's you don't know.... the point with Wade (and others) is that he is the fastest person alive over 400 m.
So he proves the exception: "no black person", and he is definitely not the only one.

Kolisi*
 

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The man is legendary and easily one of the best fast bowlers ever produced by South Africa. He is truly world class.

He would've made it BEE or not with his abilities but he has had to prove himself further in the start to the fans because of quota. One of the adverse effects of BBBEE on black excellence.
He would not have played for the national team during apartheid, whether talented or not.
 

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It has been mentioned here a few times how the ANC never did anything and some benevolent white people just woke one day and decided to give us Freedoms.
FW de Klerk shares the same sentiments. The Apartheid regime could have taken harsher measures, perhaps shifting the population geographically across provinces and construct independence accordingly. They had the power to do this. Also, we saw what the English did in Australia in the 1800's and early 1900's. So we need to stop pretending that things couldn't have been worse and that the now ANC was pure good, we see this today only a few from the ANC were truly seeking liberation the rest were on the bandwagon and had ulterior motives.

Coming back to the article: Here's the funny part given the history of SA and what this article is alluding to, we now see black people flocking abroad to the "imperial" lands, so you can't argue about how terrible SA is because of Apartheid yet when they move to England/Netherlands they won't dare propagate their hypocrisy in these lands they immigrate to. We cannot generalize by stating professionals are plainly wanting to leave to seek better opportunities elsewhere.

We need to honest the ANC's days of blaming the Apartheid regime ended 1994. There was a myth created that it was acceptable to blame Apartheid regime, the entire country entertained this narrative for too long to the point that it created the mess we find ourselves in. An extension of this: white monopoly capital nonsense. If you have any black friends or work colleagues look at the propaganda spewing social media. It's all about taking the land back and owning things, it's destructive to say the least. It's not about building and creating. Therefore many blacks cannot associate with this mentality they leave SA for these reasons...
 

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I normally don't respond to you but will make an exception here.

Cosmik Debris said that so you should ask him (I mentioned that in the post if you read properly).

Note how you never question him or call him out.

Btw, do you have a keyword search turned on to give you alerts when the word "apartheid" comes up? You are evidently very quick to jump in when these conversations come up.
Is this possible? I'd like to have one that alerts me to any posts by yourself, champ, surface, gyre and the rest. I think I am missing out on popcorn time too often. :)
 

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After apartheid he would have played without BEE.
"BEE" and EE were necessary evils after the fall of apartheid. Unfortunately, the politicians and to some extend private sector, stuffed up the implementation.
 
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