SA’s black population considering emigration — survey

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

White people did business and resided in my homeland, Ciskei, during the Apartheid. I have seen them in my visits to Transkei. I cannot speak of other TBVC states because I was far from them.

Sol Kerzner for one, did a roaring trade in the TBVC countries.

 

[Bewlen]

Bantu education was a disaster. It needed to be scrapped as soon as possible. Do you agree?



I say...rather controversially, that whatever was implemented to replace Bantu education was just as bad (forgot what it was called).

As soon as possible, agreed. It does now beg the question, why the black students of today, almost have contempt for these education systems that they were always denied. They should prosper and flourish now that they have access to what their parents fought very hard for, grab it with both hands. Sure, a very tiny amount of them do, but the numbers tell a very sad story.

I don't have an answer why this is the case. But it is one of the main reasons why south africa has failed.

 

[TheChamp]

I can tell you. I went to a technical college in 1994. Firstly - there were black, coloured and indian people with me in class. SO fck off with any apartheid statement.
The facilitators we had were top notch. Best of the best.
Jump forward to 2012 - I joined the training industry. Fck.... colleges were so kak they asked us to help after hours. I just refused. Student on student complained. Facilitators knew fokol. Students created their own little groups and tried teaching themselves. It came to the point that we don't send any learners to college.

But wasn't going to say anything mos?

 

[TheChamp]

Yes, I can relate to that in the context of Ciskei.

Under the apartheid government puppet, Pres Lennox Sebe, White people were doing business in Ciskei for a good strategic reason. The only time many White businesses moved out was in 1990 during the military coup to overthrow Sebe.

Was he a good guy compared to Gqozo? I don't know much about him but I had a security guy who was in the military and he rated him as well as the Transkei of the time very high.

 

[TheChamp]

They did business and actually owned farmlands in in the general vicinity of my village as well. They farmed wheat and maize but abandoned these lands in the late 70s.

Most of the factories in those industrial areas were owned by white people, Cosmik Debris is so delusional when it comes to apartheid.

 

[EADC]

Most of the factories in those industrial areas were owned by white people, Cosmik Debris is so delusional when it comes to apartheid.

Dude was there when Goede Hoope landed how dare you.

 

[Phylax]

But your post suggests people emigrating are the ones who destroyed the country.

So, I'm an ANC voter by virtue of being black? Like it's in my DNA?

You voted for Zuma, we all know it...

 

[Gyre]

You voted for Zuma, we all know it...

Just like we know you're hiding that white monopoly capital under your bed?

 

[Oldfut]

I never said BEE is right, but comparing BEE to Apartheid is like comparing a car crash to falling off your bicycle.

I also assume that discrimination still outweighs any good BEE tries to do, so you have individual discrimination and government discrimination. We can't hope that either will "do the right thing" on their own.

I guess you also believe one can be a little bit pregnant as well. Race based laws are, and were, wrong, amoral and unprincipaled; Finish and klaar. See where they have led SA over the last 70 years.

 

[ForceFate]

You voted for Zuma, we all know it...

I did?

Oh! Wow!

Apparently I voted for Zuma. Shocking.

 

[Gyre]

I guess you also believe one can be a little bit pregnant as well. Race based laws are, and were, wrong, amoral and unprincipaled; Finish and klaar. See where they have led SA over the last 70 years.

Pregnancy is an absolute yes or no variable, a better comparison is like "too much salt" being the difference two extra shakes or an additional 7 tones.

Race based laws and discrimination are wrong, I'm merely commenting on the comparison/exaggeration. Difference between having a head start in a race and not being allowed to race at all.

 

[HunterNW]

Pregnancy is an absolute yes or no variable, a better comparison is like "too much salt" being the difference two extra shakes or an additional 7 tones.

Race based laws and discrimination are wrong, I'm merely commenting on the comparison/exaggeration. Difference between having a head start in a race and not being allowed to race at all.

One question. Do you also believe this "head start" is because of a trust fund or an inheritance ?

 

[Gyre]

One question. Do you also believe this "head start" is because of a trust fund or an inheritance ?

It's through connections, experience and opportunities. It could be generational wealth gap too.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

White players who were also not ready for international cricket were also put into the team but never got the same amount of scrutiny.

According to who? You?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Now hear me out this might be controversial, but you know you can be critical of someone for being **** and no need to bring race into it.

But I guess that is far out there.

The irony...

Why is then that when any POC is criticized by whitey...worldwide I may add...the immediate conclusion is racism? This has become so rife that even Muslims cry racism when their religion is criticized.

This kak works both ways unfortunately.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

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As racist as they come...

 

[Gyre]

The irony...

Why is then that when any POC is criticized by whitey...worldwide I may add...the immediate conclusion is racism? This has become so rife that even Muslims cry racism when their religion is criticized.

This kak works both ways unfortunately.

Maybe coz they're used to racism?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Are people really upset black people are now allowed to leave the country and don't have to answer to the whites anymore.

That's what freedom of movement is eish.

Jirre, you're not even trying to obfuscate or hide your racism anymore.

Whitey got you this upset??

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Maybe coz they're used to racism?

How's that then?

Muslim is a race now?

 

[EADC]

The irony...

Why is then that when any POC is criticized by whitey...worldwide I may add...the immediate conclusion is racism? This has become so rife that even Muslims cry racism when their religion is criticized.

This kak works both ways unfortunately.

Because it usually is.

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It's quite funny you came and defended the racist. Because I was clearly aiming my post at those that cannot criticise without race