SA Defends Trevor Noah As Americans Support Canning Of Show

Polymathic

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Eish... South Park will be missed. But I am sure it will be grabbed by some other provider. As for the hundreds of comedy shows, not sure about them though.
 

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His daily show content has been mediocre at best - completely abandoned the type of comedy that made him funny. Hopefully this is a wake up call and he goes back to his roots.
 

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Business is business. I also don’t know why ‘we’ want to meddle in America’s decisions, it is their television network, their products and their target markets. I am not going to get on the Trevor Noah bandwagon, but my when I am labelled as Jan van Riebeeck it is dumb but when you label an American as Jan van Riebeeck it is dumberer (yes, I said dumberer).

Trevor Noah is an employee, he is likely shopping around, or Viacom is looking to be picked up by another network.

Also, it is clear that Viacom is still busy renegotiating with AT&T-DIRECTV because our media (and Noah) is spinning it like they are being dropped, when,

https://eu.courier-journal.com/stor...-viacom-channels-that-may-go-dark/3244230002/

You could lose these channels if Viacom and DirecTV can't reach a deal

DirecTV customers currently have access to fewer channels, but Louisville-area customers got some good news Friday after stations WDRB and WBKI returned to DirecTV and AT&T U-verse.

Block Communications, the Toledo, Ohio-based company which owns WDRB and WBKI, reached a new agreement Friday with AT&T, said Phil Hayes, an AT&T spokesman, in a statement to the Courier Journal.

As a result of the new deal, WDRB and WBKI are available again to DirecTV and U-verse viewers in the Louisville area.

The two stations were removed from DirecTV and U-verse on March 15 as a result of a contract dispute between Block Communications and AT&T.


But DirecTV customers are still without other channels.

A contract between AT&T and Viacom expired at midnight Friday. And customers are currently without several channels as a result while contract negotiations continue.

Viacom is encouraging DirecTV subscribers to contact AT&T, which is the largest paid TV provider in the U.S., with 24.5 million subscribers.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/03/19/viacom-and-at-t-direct-tv-contract/3218751002/

Will Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and Viacom go dark for AT&T's DirecTV subscribers?

UPDATE: Negotiations continued Saturday between Viacom and AT&T, officials told USA TODAY. The Viacom channels remained on AT&T's platforms past the Friday deadline. On Saturday, Viacom updated its KeepViacom.com website with this message: "Thank you for your patience as we work to reach an agreement with AT&T-DIRECTV to keep Viacom channels on the air."

DirecTV customers may soon find themselves with fewer channels.

At midnight Friday, the contract between AT&T and Viacom is set to expire, meaning popular stations such as Nickelodeon and Comedy Central could go black.

Viacom is warning AT&T's DirecTV subscribers that they may lose access to 23 channels if a dispute over fees isn't resolved before the contract expires. Viacom also is encouraging customers to contact AT&T.

"Unfortunately, AT&T is abusing its new market position by favoring its own content – which significantly underperforms Viacom’s – to stifle competition," Viacom said in a statement Tuesday.

However, AT&T is hoping "to avoid any interruption to the channels some of our customers care about," the company told USA TODAY in a statement late Tuesday.

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“We’re disappointed to see Viacom put our customers in the middle of their negotiations," AT&T said in the statement. "We are on the side of customer choice and value and want to keep Viacom’s channels in our customers’ lineups."

The channels that could be impacted are six Nickelodeon channels, six MTV channels, and five BET channels, as well as Comedy Central, Paramount Network, CMT and CMT Music, TV Land, Logo, VH1, and Spanish-language service Tr3s, AT&T posted on its website.

AT&T is the largest pay TV provider in the U.S., with 24.5 million subscribers.

Viacom is posting updates on its website, www.keepviacom.com, and airing ads that urge customers to contact AT&T. The media company has done the same in other contract negotiations.

Trevor Noah, host of Comedy Central’s "The Daily Show" stars in one of the ads.

“If you think government shutdowns are bad, get ready for something worse," Noah said. "AT&T-DirecTV might drop Comedy Central and up to 22 other Viacom channels."

In its statement, Viacom says it is "the No. 1 cable family serving key customers and communities on AT&T-DirecTV’s services across kids, teens, 18-49, African Americans and Hispanics."

AT&T said “several of Viacom’s channels are no longer popular.”

“Viacom’s channels in total have lost about 40 percent of their audience in the past six years,” AT&T said in the statement. “Viacom is a serial bad actor in these business negotiations and has repeatedly used these tactics with other distributors.”

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Disputes between content providers and cable and satellite providers aren't uncommon as companies try to negotiate new deals.

Both AT&T and Viacom say they are looking for a resolution.

"We have made a series of offers that are good for consumers and good for AT&T – giving subscribers more access to the Viacom channels they love, including Nickelodeon, BET, MTV, Comedy Central and Paramount, while enabling AT&T-DirecTV to lower customers’ bills in the process," Viacom said.

AT&T said it's also the company's goal "to deliver the content our customers want at a value that also makes sense to them.”

“We’ve always fought to get the best deal for our customers, delivering the content they want at a great value," AT&T said. "We’ll continue to fight for that here.”

Sometimes the negotiations are extended to allow the parties to reach an agreement. In many situations, the stations don't go black.
Viacom sounds a bit childish in the negotiations, they are the salesmen here and may always look at distributing elsewhere when they are unable to sell to AT&T-DirecTV. They are using social media to rile up support while AT&T-DirecTV is talking the numbers.

To be honest, Viacom acts like Trump here.
 

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Business is business. I also don’t know why ‘we’ want to meddle in America’s decisions, it is their television network, their products and their target markets. I am not going to get on the Trevor Noah bandwagon, but my when I am labelled as Jan van Riebeeck it is dumb but when you label an American as Jan van Riebeeck it is dumberer (yes, I said dumberer).

Trevor Noah is an employee, he is likely shopping around, or Viacom is looking to be picked up by another network.

Also, it is clear that Viacom is still busy renegotiating with AT&T-DIRECTV because our media (and Noah) is spinning it like they are being dropped, when,

https://eu.courier-journal.com/stor...-viacom-channels-that-may-go-dark/3244230002/



https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/03/19/viacom-and-at-t-direct-tv-contract/3218751002/



Viacom sounds a bit childish in the negotiations, they are the salesmen here and may always look at distributing elsewhere when they are unable to sell to AT&T-DirecTV. They are using social media to rile up support while AT&T-DirecTV is talking the numbers.

To be honest, Viacom acts like Trump here.
I think they trying to avoid a bloodbath, I suspect AT&T don't want the vast majority of the 22 other channels.
 

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I think they trying to avoid a bloodbath, I suspect AT&T don't want the vast majority of the 22 other channels.
Avoid what bloodbath?

There are many and many other television distributors in the USA. Viacom will continue to produce their channels, but may in the interim suspend some ‘live’ channels. As you know, by reading the two articles, the agreement is continued beyond the expiry date as there is a window to renegotiate the terms, but it is evident that there is unhappiness between the two parties which needs to be resolved.

The USA Today article added:

One ongoing dispute that has lasted several months is between Dish Network, HBO and Cinemax.

HBO and Cinemax went dark for Dish Network subscribers in November as part of a programming dispute between Dish and AT&T, owner of the two premium cable companies.
Who knows what these disputes entail as it is all locked under non-disclosers.

When it comes to Viacom, they may sell those unwanted channels to other more 'willing' networks. All these channels are a product in their own respect, each with their own business plan and expectations. People should know by now, when something doesn't sell within 'acceptance' then it is a loss and losses needs to be cut.

Maybe Viacom must consider dropping some channels than trying to keep those ships sailworthy. I have seen many people and businesses going down holding on to a product they aren't selling or which is sellable. Either your marketing sucks or you are targeting the wrong market or niche, or your product didn’t meet the consumer’s expectations, and I’m not even talking about the service.
 

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Avoid what bloodbath?

There are many and many other television distributors in the USA. Viacom will continue to produce their channels, but may in the interim suspend some ‘live’ channels. As you know, by reading the two articles, the agreement is continued beyond the expiry date as there is a window to renegotiate the terms, but it is evident that there is unhappiness between the two parties which needs to be resolved.

The USA Today article added:



Who knows what these disputes entail as it is all locked under non-disclosers.

When it comes to Viacom, they may sell those unwanted channels to other more 'willing' networks. All these channels are a product in their own respect, each with their own business plan and expectations. People should know by now, when something doesn't sell within 'acceptance' then it is a loss and losses needs to be cut.

Maybe Viacom must consider dropping some channels than trying to keep those ships sailworthy. I have seen many people and businesses going down holding on to a product they aren't selling or which is sellable. Either your marketing sucks or you are targeting the wrong market or niche, or your product didn’t meet the consumer’s expectations, and I’m not even talking about the service.
Bloodbath in terms of number of people who would lose their jobs from the less popular channels
 
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Noah's not terrible, but I will say this. Jon Stewart was absolutely brilliant in that slot.

I don't think that in the US they care one way or the other. If the ratings are good they will keep a show/channel running. If not it will be consigned to the history books. They are too profit driven and practical for it to be otherwise.

If Trevor believes in his message he can always start a Youtube channel funded by Patreon and views. Otherwise the show could jump channels to another network.
 
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