SA has run out of taxpayers, says Dawie Roodt

[D tj]

AlphaBravo said " Once you realise that government employees salaries are paid from tax payers money, then their PAYE does not contribute to the government coffers at all"

Exacty so: their Paye is just round tripping and does not add even 1 cent to the actual tax collected, but to round trip the monies does cost and results in an actual loss of collected tax.

 

[Johnatan56]

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Zimbobwe also found out recently, that when you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, you'll have nothing but soil for breakfast.

Left side is not capitalism but socialism, and the right-hand side is communism.

 

[Aghori]

There was a man with a small mustache who tried the same.
It did not go down very well though

Huh? It went quite well according to what the jews tell us. 6 million or so?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

SA has run out of taxpayers, says Dawie Roodt

South Africa has run out of taxpayers and capital, which is why the government is now eyeing savings to get more money.

what a genius Dawie is, seriously how does he know these things.
a 2year old Child can predict all he says.

 

[koeks525]

For a developing nation with so much potential, our taxes are high; though from what I have seen, aren't far from what one would typically pay at a "developed" nation. Interestingly, I thought we had around 8 million people who are paying tax.

In any case, most people don't have much to take anyway - the CCP virus has proven that fact very well (i.e.: people get fired and their lives are affected instantly). They have cars, fancy credit cards and other various loans, etc, going out to expensive, overpriced places... the list goes on and on.

 

[CommonSense]

Huh? It went quite well according to what the jews tell us. 6 million or so?

Exactly. They even had to start a war to invade other countries to go find more...

South Africa has a finite resource, so once it's gone, it's gone.
So a much easier solution to accomplish, with less effort in SA.
Lower numbers too, so the bar is lower, so easier to achieve.

 

[Milano]

Mission accomplished. Fortunately ANC policies ensure an endless supply of new grant recipients. We are going to need way more statues.

 

[Paul_S]

what a genius Dawie is, seriously how does he know these things.
a 2year old Child can predict all he says.

That implies that the ANC idiots don't have the cognitive capabilities of a two year old because anyone in their right mind would see the writing on the wall and adjust their ways so that they don't end up with nothing.

 

[Swa]

what a genius Dawie is, seriously how does he know these things.
a 2year old Child can predict all he says.

Question is how does the ANC not know it? Next major headline: SA has run out of savings.

The most obvious solution is to ensure everyone pays taxes. 3-5m people cannot provide for 58m.

Does not work when those people aren't part of the private economy. People on grants don't pay tax. People in the public sector don't pay tax. It has to come from non-government sources.

 

[Sensorei]

what a genius Dawie is, seriously how does he know these things.
a 2year old Child can predict all he says.

Usually, but this is Africa...

 

[CommonSense]

People in the public sector don't pay tax.

Hold on there captain, people in the public sector does pay tax, same as anyone who earns a salary.

It is a different argument on whether some of them deserve the money they are paid entirely, but there are very hard working public servants. Do you think the water magically appears in your taps, or the roads outside are fixed by fairies or the myriad of other services the public sector delivers?

Don't confuse political public servants (like councillors and politicians) with other public "working-class" servants.

Public servants pays the same PAYE as you and me.

 

[Crayons]

I think its Parys se Hilton

Ah I remember her. I watched one of her movies.

 

[Swa]

Hold on there captain, people in the public sector does pay tax, same as anyone who earns a salary.

It is a different argument on whether some of them deserve the money they are paid entirely, but there are very hard working public servants. Do you think the water magically appears in your taps, or the roads outside are fixed by fairies or the myriad of other services the public sector delivers?

Don't confuse political public servants (like councillors and politicians) with other public "working-class" servants.

Public servants pays the same PAYE as you and me.

No they don't pay the "same" PAYE and you can't count them as tax payers. Their salaries are paid by government so government can't be seen as collecting tax "from" them.

And nowhere did I say anything about whether they are hard working or not. You seem to be projecting something here.

 

[Sinbad]

Hold on there captain, people in the public sector does pay tax, same as anyone who earns a salary.

It is a different argument on whether some of them deserve the money they are paid entirely, but there are very hard working public servants. Do you think the water magically appears in your taps, or the roads outside are fixed by fairies or the myriad of other services the public sector delivers?

Don't confuse political public servants (like councillors and politicians) with other public "working-class" servants.

Public servants pays the same PAYE as you and me.

Their salary comes out of the tax pool. They add zero tax revenue overall.

 

[CommonSense]

No they don't pay the "same" PAYE and you can't count them as tax payers.

Seriously, you are really misguided on this. You are completely and utterly wrong.

 

[Park@82]

Interesting YT vid - dictator death toll

IIRC Stalin liked more than Hitler.

 

[CommonSense]

Their salary comes out of the tax pool. They add zero tax revenue overall.

So any company whose revenue is derived from selling to the public sector also cannot be counted as contributing because at the end of the day the money they use to pay their staff comes from government which makes it part of the tax pool. (Its a stupid argument, but that is what you are arguing).

All countries in the world count their public servants as part of the Tax paying base. But SA needs to be special to show how the whole economy is in the hands of the few who are not public servants.

 

[MachoPants]

The most obvious solution is to ensure everyone pays taxes. 3-5m people cannot provide for 58m.

ANC maths and economics says otherwise

 

[Milano]

So any company whose revenue is derived from selling to the public sector also cannot be counted as contributing because at the end of the day the money they use to pay their staff comes from government which makes it part of the tax pool. (Its a stupid argument, but that is what you are arguing).

All countries in the world count their public servants as part of the Tax paying base. But SA needs to be special to show how the whole economy is in the hands of the few who are not public servants.

You are not understanding the wider economic fundamentals. When the only sector growing is the public sector while the private sector is shedding jobs that cannot be referred to as healthy. Put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. If this month government employed another 100,000 public sector employees funded by even further debt you could not then celebrate the increase in tax revenue from those 100,000 new taxpayers. Or are you saying that you would call that an economic success story?

Your example is actually good. If I build a mop factory and sell 5,000 wooden handled mops to the Department of Public Works @ R200,000 per mop. Then my company pays tax then is that increased tax revenue something you would celebrate as an economic success?

You have to recognise that while you are being scammed by a governing criminal cartel then the numbers are not very credible once you dig deeper. The wider economic situation confirms the rot. You must have noticed the resulting issues? Even the ANC government recognises the problem they created by governing in such a short-sighted manipulative manner in order to gain votes. They just keep kicking the can down the road.

 

[Swa]

Seriously, you are really misguided on this. You are completely and utterly wrong.

So their PAYE isn't paid by tax money.

So any company whose revenue is derived from selling to the public sector also cannot be counted as contributing because at the end of the day the money they use to pay their staff comes from government which makes it part of the tax pool. (Its a stupid argument, but that is what you are arguing).

No, more like a company who's revenue is derived from selling to its employees. It's an unsustainable practice of feeding on itself. Government money can only come from two places, tax revenue or borrowing. In the case of government employees it can't come from taxes because that's already from government money... but apparently you know better.

All countries in the world count their public servants as part of the Tax paying base. But SA needs to be special to show how the whole economy is in the hands of the few who are not public servants.

Most countries do not have such a bloated public sector that has been used to try and hide the job losses due to the government's ill policies and inefficiencies.