SA must take tougher stance on Russia's Ukraine invasion - US

rvZA

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Does Russia know where SA is and does it even care ??

They do now, if they did not know before. They are now looking at new relationships with African countries to assist with shortages of various products they are about to face. Saw this in some news article earlier today.
 

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The EU still imports billions of cubic meters of gas from Russia, yet a $hithole country with a $hithole economy with its $hithole amounts of Russian imports is the problem.


There was nothing wrong with the UN resolution against Russia, if you read the text, it would end the conflict if it were abided by:

The EU announced this afternoon that they will not stop purchasing oil from Russia even if the funds are used to stoke the war. They admitted that the EU face collapse if they stop purchasing oil from them. They confirmed that this option is totally off the table.
 

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This is just the ANC seeking attention and trying to look like a macho political party and world-player, which they are not. They know MC did not remove the channel. They are hoping on 50m+ stupids do not know this.
Then why is the US begging SA to change their vote and not asking India or other 33 nations?
 

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Then why is the US begging SA to change their vote and not asking India or other 33 nations?

This is not begging. These are warnings. South Africa and all other non-threatening, non-nuclear countries will soon be slapped with devastating sanctions too.
 

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Surely then they should be on Israel's side too?
the Apartheid Government loved Israel, half of the SADF Arms were brought from Israel, so many Soldiers were trained by the Israelis.
the ANC loathes Israel, very well known fact. would be better if Israel did not exist in the eyes of the ANC.

this was a week back,

so them supporting Russia? not surprising, we also have a Syrian, Iranian and North Korean Embassy in SA.
were the staging ground of many of the worst Dictatorships and Autocrats in the world,
(this is where they come get away from the Hustle and bustle of their day to day torturing, murdering dissidents and suppressing elections business, they have back home)

sure some Russian Super Yachts will come park in CPT soon enough, and maybe even a private Jet or 3 will come hide out here in Africa, as we are easily bribed.
and relatively safe haven for them.
 

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This is not begging. These are warnings. South Africa and all other non-threatening, non-nuclear countries will soon be slapped with devastating sanctions too.
It won't happen. The worst that can happen is reduced investments or even divestment.
 

rvZA

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It won't happen. The worst that can happen is reduced investments or even divestment.

Or minimizing role in Agoa, which in itself will be just as good as removing the country from Swift. Only this time, it may also happen in the EU who also threatened. The country will be down the dumps as Russia and China will not be our financial saviours.
 

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The EU announced this afternoon that they will not stop purchasing oil from Russia even if the funds are used to stoke the war. They admitted that the EU face collapse if they stop purchasing oil from them. They confirmed that this option is totally off the table.

Link?
 

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Or minimizing role in Agoa, which in itself will be just as good as removing the country from Swift. Only this time, it may also happen in the EU who also threatened. The country will be down the dumps as Russia and China will not be our financial saviours.
No threats were made. EU urged ZA to take a stronger stand, sentiment supported by the US.
 

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And they were not the only EU country yesterday who said they will not support it. There will not be a majority vote to impose those sanctions anymore. They EU will die if they no longer get resources from Russia.

What a bunch of virtue signaling w@nkers if that's true
 

rvZA

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What a bunch of virtue signaling w@nkers if that's true

The world is being lied to by the whole of EU, US. They are not telling the real story as to how reliant they have became on Russia and China for survival over the past 20 years. The West is currently totally incapable of being self-dependend on virtually anything. This is the whole reason why we are seeing what we are seeing today and why no single country is capable of taking any actions.
 

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ANC conveniently forgets the vast majority of the finances while in exile came from Western countries (Nordic countries to mention supported hugely regards non military support.) , Military from USSR and other Warsaw countries some who now belong to NATO. Astounding the number of ANC cadres who wave around degrees, diploma's etc from Western institutions when in exile. Tambo along with other senior leaders in exile were based in UK up until 1990.
 
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