SA Navy to spend R60 million on weapon barely used since World War 2

patrick123

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Them sharks are now kakking themselves while the pigs are smiling impatiently waiting for the trough to get filled up.
 

patrick123

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The headline is slightly misleading at only 60 Million.

The article states up to 60 Million per torpedo!
 

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Neighbour's son is a "technical assistant" in SAN submarines. He says the captain and crew are sh***ing themselves at the thought of going to sea. They have heard rumours of these torpedoes, but there is some contraption around the loading tube that needs urgent replacement before they can be loaded. Otherwise, the sea-water will flood in the moment they open the outer door to fire the thing

They could have a "Kursk" incident and be tapping on the hull while lying on the bottom
 

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Don't be surprised to learn the buying department at the Navy is run by someone closely connected to Zuma and/or the Guptas.
This trough has many branches.
 

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Neighbour's son is a "technical assistant" in SAN submarines. He says the captain and crew are sh***ing themselves at the thought of going to sea. They have heard rumours of these torpedoes, but there is some contraption around the loading tube that needs urgent replacement before they can be loaded. Otherwise, the sea-water will flood in the moment they open the outer door to fire the thing

They could have a "Kursk" incident and be tapping on the hull while lying on the bottom
How do you sink an SAS submarine? Knock.on the hatch.
How do you sink an SAS ship? Put it in water.
How long can an SAS submarine stay under water? As long a the oarsmen can hold their breath.
 

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Neighbour's son is a "technical assistant" in SAN submarines. He says the captain and crew are sh***ing themselves at the thought of going to sea. They have heard rumours of these torpedoes, but there is some contraption around the loading tube that needs urgent replacement before they can be loaded. Otherwise, the sea-water will flood in the moment they open the outer door to fire the thing

They could have a "Kursk" incident and be tapping on the hull while lying on the bottom
The Kursk is the first thing that came to my mind. Let's hope these torpedoes don't need regular maintenance from skilled personnel.
 

Jladan

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Ironically at 3.8m $ each the price doesn’t seem that far overblown. Still don’t know why we need them for submarines that can’t go to sea. Also surely munitions supply would have been part of the original purchase agreement for the subs
 

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Don't be surprised to learn the buying department at the Navy is run by someone closely connected to Zuma and/or the Guptas.
This trough has many branches.
The Navy or is it actually Armscor ?

According to a report in the Sunday Times, Armscor has confirmed plans to buy a new torpedo system for Heroine-class submarines.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gove...-on-weapon-barely-used-since-world-war-2.html

Lets not mention these were the same subs that a German firm allegedly payed R300 Million to S.A. to secure the sale in the fisrt place.

German industrial company Ferrostaal allegedly paid R300 million to secure the sale of submarines to South Africa, the Citizen reported on Friday
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https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/germans-paid-r300m-for-sa-submarines-1112665

In 2008, the Sunday Times reported that Ferrostaal allegedly gave former president Thabo Mbeki R30 million in bribes, some of which was allegedly shared with current president Jacob Zuma. An internal audit of Ferrostaal by American-based law firm Debevoise and Plimpton, who was hired after the German Public Prosecutions Authority arrested of one of its board members in 2010, reportedly places the amount paid in bribes at R300 million, or over $40 million. The report was not publicly released, but Germany's Süddeutsche Zeitung reported that it had obtained a copy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroine-class_submarine
 

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This youngsters father was also in the Navy and they went to France to be trained. On the torpedo there is a screw-in activator. It is essential that the operator be able to insert this device cleanly and accurately in one action, in the heat of the battle, possibly with the submarine moving about violently

Several of the trainees got so nervous that they dropped the thing (it would be ruined), or put in cross-thread so it jammed (rather life-threatening) or were too scared to tighten it so the 'ready" light came on. Without a confirmed activator, the torpedo cannot be fired

This activator is about the size of a rolling pin and also long, with a recessed piston one and and a large hex socket the other

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