SA property market: Where dreams come to die

Hamster

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We haven't done this in a while...

Everyone who buys a residential property is a dreamer. You dream of owning your own home; a place where you can settle down and raise a family and have your friends over for a braai to watch the rugby or soccer on a glorious summer day.

It’s the ultimate middle-class dream: to become a property owner, owning an asset, that over time — using the magic of gearing — will build your wealth and provide you with enough capital for the next step up the property ladder into something bigger and better.

And if you really want to dream big, you buy additional properties, again using gearing, to rent out to someone less fortunate than you who will then pay off your mortgage bond(s) over ten or 20 years, and presto: you are a rent-collecting landlord.

It looks so easy on paper. You even attended one of those buy-to-rent investment seminars where some guru with an American accent comes to tell you how easy it is. Or possibly one of the locally-grown copy cats who got onto the band wagon. What could possibly go wrong?

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On average property prices in real terms are now down 23% from its peak at end 2007 and prices in certain areas are starting to show declines in nominal terms as well. Our banks must be watching this development with great foreboding.

Rental collections also tell a story of a market slowly imploding. According to the fourth quarter 2016 survey (the latest available) done by Tenant Profile Network, both vacancies and non-payers are still rising. In this quarter, which therefore does not reflect the impact of the credit downgrades in April, national vacancies are 6.62% which, when added to the non-paying number, reflected no income for property owners equivalent to 12.4% of all property owners in this market. For the upper-end (R12 000 to R25 000 per month) this combined number rises to 15%!

Again, it needs to be added, the Western Cape is the exception. Tenants pay mostly on time and rentals are still rising as a result of very few vacancies.

More: https://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-opinion/soapbox/sa-property-market-where-dreams-come-to-die/
 

supersunbird

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Well, as always, one should not buy the mostest house the bank is willing to give you a loan on.

And as to buy-to-rent? Smaller cheaper units, not houses.
 

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I fear the day everybody stops buying property - who will I rent from? :eek:
 

Arzy

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In the current market you can realistically pick up some good property at reasonable prices.
 

3WA

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No-one would want to buy R2m+ properties right now. Rather wait and see if the economy stabilises. Meanwhile, lots of people who own such properties trying to liquidise their assets.


Of course, if you're a gambling man/woman, you could score a deal.
 

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I hope it falls more. Becuase I am in the market
 

Shellyb1

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Meanwhile, lots of people who own such properties trying to liquidise their assets.

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Where are these and any tips on how to get good deals?

Are estate agents helpful in giving details on their clients that are looking for urgent buyers and looking to sell at a reduced price?
 

3WA

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Where are these and any tips on how to get good deals?

I confess to making anecdotal comments. I've driven through Houghton, Norwood, Forest Town daily for a few years and there's easily more than double the number of For Sale boards now than I've ever seen before. Lots of them been up for months.
 

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Are estate agents helpful in giving details on their clients that are looking for urgent buyers and looking to sell at a reduced price?
Yes, they are helpful in the way Zupta is helpful to SA economy.
 

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Where are these and any tips on how to get good deals?

Are estate agents helpful in giving details on their clients that are looking for urgent buyers and looking to sell at a reduced price?

estate agents helpful = oxymoron

The vast majority of estate agents are useless leeches; at least that's my opinion and experience.
 

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The vast majority of estate agents are useless leeches
I group them in the prostitute category rather, alongside lawyers, recruiters, telemarketers, insurance salesmen and actual whores who charge money for sex. Guess which one of those I have the most respect for ...
 

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I group them in the prostitute category rather, alongside lawyers, recruiters, telemarketers, insurance salesmen and actual whores who charge money for sex. Guess which one of those I have the most respect for ...
? The only one that delivers an actual service?
 

supersunbird

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I group them in the prostitute category rather, alongside lawyers, recruiters, telemarketers, insurance salesmen and actual whores who charge money for sex. Guess which one of those I have the most respect for ...

The whores!
 

SauRoNZA

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I fear the day everybody stops buying property - who will I rent from? :eek:

I think part of the problem is also people taking the piss with rental.

If you price it right and don’t get greedy you’ll always have renters.

In my mind a property rental empire should be more about a steady income that high profits.

It’s about getting paid while doing almost nothing.
 

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I think part of the problem is also people taking the piss with rental.

If you price it right and don’t get greedy you’ll always have renters.

In my mind a property rental empire should be more about a steady income that high profits.

It’s about getting paid while doing almost nothing.

The place I rent was going for R7000 pm in 2012. Rent will be increasing by R300 pm this year to R8800 pm.

Very good deal if you consider location and it is a 2 bedroom unit. Only reason I'll move next year is because I'm bored of it and looking for a change. If the owner increased it by too much I would've probably left already and if the place is empty for just one month it takes quite a bit of time to actually make up the difference, so yeah, if you find a good tenant I don't think you as the landlord can afford to price it too high. Renting is great (here in JHB anyway).
 
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