SAA crisis - Flight cancellations have begun

Blue Shirt

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so in other words now there is 11 000 less tax payers instantly..... good story bro lets keep it going can we have a poll who is next...... guess Eskom or Telkom
At the rate SAA was losing taxpayers' money, it will be a net gain for the taxpayers if they lose their jobs. Besides which, the good ones will be picked up by other airlines and will become real contributors to the fiscus with their taxes.

Furthermore, it will be mostly SAA airline staff that will be affected, SAA Technical and Mango will most likely continue unchanged unless Mango is also loss-making.
 

qscwbt

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SAA is like a spoiled naughty child. He keeps getting in trouble and daddy keeps bailing him out. As long as daddy bails this child, he will not learn consequences.

But the day has come and daddy cant bail you out no more. Suddenly SAA going to have to make hard decisions to survive.
 

chefdude98

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Is it possible for an organisation like OUTA & possibly Gerrie Nel to drag the government to court?

This should be the final opportunity for SAA.
 

Sollie

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Basically you are asking SA economy to die. Unions are no joke.
True story. A baby was at near death's bed. It started off with a mere throat infection, turned to sepsis, ended up with the baby getting gangrene in his arms and legs. His one leg self-amputated. Doctors helped amputate the other limbs. After that the baby made a remarkable recovery.

South Africa has a little corruption infection which esclated ... you know the rest and can connect the dots. We need some strong anti-union-biotics.
 

gottagoon

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True story. A baby was at near death's bed. It started off with a mere throat infection, turned to sepsis, ended up with the baby getting gangrene in his arms and legs. His one leg self-amputated. Doctors helped amputate the other limbs. After that the baby made a remarkable recovery.

South Africa has a little corruption infection which esclated ... you know the rest and can connect the dots. We need some strong anti-union-biotics.
That's EXACTLY what we need Solly :)
 

access

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swallow your pride and ask richard branson for help... he publicly announced he would help if asked
 

Jola

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swallow your pride and ask richard branson for help... he publicly announced he would help if asked
Branson is not a magician, I'm not sure that he could do anything to help.

This is a FU beyond all reasonable measures, thanks @MyANC !!!
 

access

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Branson is not a magician, I'm not sure that he could do anything to help.

This is a FU beyond all reasonable measures, thanks @MyANC !!!
true, but i would tend to give his judgement the benefit of the doubt, he is the successful one
 

Papa Smurf

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Is it too late to privatise?

It'll be sad to see it go completely. Even if you fly other airlines nothing like chilling in an airport lounge overseas, watching the planes taxi and park, and feeling that little burst of pride when you see that SAA livery. :cool::thumbsup:
i am no expert but the way i see it is when you buy a company you also buy the debt
would you gamble on buying SAA if you had a Gupta credit card in your pocket?
 

Knyro

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i am no expert but the way i see it is when you buy a company you also buy the debt
would you gamble on buying SAA if you had a Gupta credit card in your pocket?
There would obviously have to be major restructuring. Heck I'd even settle for a private airline just buying the SAA brand off them.
 

Daruk

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At the rate SAA was losing taxpayers' money, it will be a net gain for the taxpayers if they lose their jobs. Besides which, the good ones will be picked up by other airlines and will become real contributors to the fiscus with their taxes.

Furthermore, it will be mostly SAA airline staff that will be affected, SAA Technical and Mango will most likely continue unchanged unless Mango is also loss-making.
+1 Other airlines will pick up the slack - and more efficiently if they're profit making.
 
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Daruk

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There would obviously have to be major restructuring. Heck I'd even settle for a private airline just buying the SAA brand off them.
Isn't that what Richard Branson offered to do? Buy a major stake? On condition that he runs it as he sees fit.
 

NarrowBandFtw

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Agreed, but some routes are not covered by other airlines.
+1 I'm ashamed to admit I've recently booked a route that includes some SAA legs, but it had the shortest flight duration and lowest price, so I rolled the dice on the fact that the overall thing is booked with Qantas and being an upstanding airline I trust they'll sort me out if SAA goes the way of the Dodo

Skande!!!... once flourishing airline - now a 0 on a contract
If they dig deep, tighten the belts REAL tight, beg, borrow, steal, crawl and work their fingers to the bone ... only then they might again reach "0 on a contract" status, currently it is a huge negative number ...

You know... they... they could try recover the billions stolen. Start by knocking on Dudu's door.
Don't come here with your colonial, counter revolutionary talk you damn racist!
 

Jola

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Isn't that what Richard Branson offered to do? Buy a major stake? On condition that he runs it as he sees fit.
You really think that a bunch of old-school communists/socialists will allow that ?

To get rid of the unions, reduce staff, tell people how to behave ? Stop looting and corruption ?

Not a snowballs hope in hell !

In any event, too much money needed to save SAA - the cronies stole it all.
 

NarrowBandFtw

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Is it too late to privatise?

It'll be sad to see it go completely. Even if you fly other airlines nothing like chilling in an airport lounge overseas, watching the planes taxi and park, and feeling that little burst of pride when you see that SAA livery. :cool::thumbsup:
Would you invest in something that is basically a guaranteed loss?!?

That burst of pride was just gas, my a-hole also twitches every time I see an SAA plane, that's the body reminding you of all the taxes you help to piss away into the black hole that is the ANC. (no pun intended)
 

TysonRoux

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Would you invest in something that is basically a guaranteed loss?!?

That burst of pride was just gas, my a-hole also twitches every time I see an SAA plane, that's the body reminding you of all the taxes you help to piss away into the black hole that is the ANC. (no pun intended)
Feel the same, cannot conjure up an ounce of pride for that, same goes for Eskom.

I no longer travel for work these days, but for the many years I did, my company instructed our travel agent NOT to get travel quotes that included SAA.
 
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