Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (fanbois only please, no trolls)

[Exaelea]

From the bit you quotedI'm under the impression the battery drains twice as fast as what wifi is draining it when not in wifi... People who can afford to get a note 4 tend not to worry about if you leave data on

 

[TJ99]

From the bit you quotedI'm under the impression the battery drains twice as fast as what wifi is draining it when not in wifi... People who can afford to get a note 4 tend not to worry about if you leave data on

We weren't talking about costs, only battery actually. But you don't make sense anyway, just because someone can afford a few hundred bucks a month how does that equate to not worrying about a several thousand Rand phone bill?

 

[Exaelea]

Since the packages can have their limits set, that several thousand rands bill is a thing of the past

 

[TJ99]

Several forum members would disagree, having had first-hand experience. Also, everyone is on different networks and they don't all actually stick to the limits you ask for.

 

[faniebraai]

Please, tell us more about how turning OFF a radio uses more power.

Dry fanny: Giving the laws of physics a massive FU.

First off, you didn't say you switched wifi OFF, you said Wifi is eating battery. When my phone is connected to a wifi access point, it is much much more battery friendly, than just being on the 3G/LTE network, even with Wifi turned off. I think it is because it doesn't have to constantly search for a better signal, as is the case with just being on 3G/LTE.

 

[faniebraai]

Nothing, unless you turn it on.

Yes of course mobile data uses more power than wifi,but that's not what he said.

Let's review what was said, Exhibit A:

I have the C.

And no, if it stays on standby it's still around 90% at the end of the day. It's the display and wifi eating the battery. Oh and games absolutely destroy it obviously.

Exhibit B:

This is crap. When my phone is not on wifi it drains battery twice as fast, or more.

Nowhere in any quote did you say you turn off mobile data. You simply stated that wifi is a battery "eater". I disagree saying that wifi is more economical than mobile data.

In the first quote you basically agree with me:

Mobile network - drains battery and bank account quickly. Wifi - drains battery less, both off - drains much slower.

Apology accepted.

 

[faniebraai]

I don't get why people want to switch off every single thing that has a toggle just to save battery life every single day. Are you never close to a charger? Even when you at home and sleep? Are you not turning your glorious Note 4 into a Galaxy Pocket because you switch everything off and lower brightness to an extend that you actually need to be in a dark room where they develop photos to actually see wtf is going on on your screen. Even use dark backgrounds for power saving reasons. Fsck that. You have the best screen on a smartphone today and you decide on a black background? :wtf: "Oooh, look, I'm still on 70% when I get into bed... right next to my charger, and I don't even need to plug it in #awesomestdayever"

It's a powerful phone with an already powerful battery. I leave everything running and I still make it through the day with ease. If I'm going somewhere where my charger won't be available for a while there's always Ultra Power Saving Mode. Enough said.

 

[kingrob]

Received my LED flip cover yesterday, it looks great. (especially in the dark) I definitely prefer it over the S-view flip cover since the S-view screen picks up fingerprints too easy.

It looks so pretty!!

 

[Maverick Jester]

I don't get why people want to switch off every single thing that has a toggle just to save battery life every single day. Are you never close to a charger? Even when you at home and sleep? Are you not turning your glorious Note 4 into a Galaxy Pocket because you switch everything off and lower brightness to an extend that you actually need to be in a dark room where they develop photos to actually see wtf is going on on your screen. Even use dark backgrounds for power saving reasons. Fsck that. You have the best screen on a smartphone today and you decide on a black background? :wtf: "Oooh, look, I'm still on 70% when I get into bed... right next to my charger, and I don't even need to plug it in #awesomestdayever"

It's a powerful phone with an already powerful battery. I leave everything running and I still make it through the day with ease. If I'm going somewhere where my charger won't be available for a while there's always Ultra Power Saving Mode. Enough said.

Because Android battery life is still an aspect that requires serious improvement. Throwing in a bigger battery to counter the higher battery drain by whatever services are running, is merely putting a band-aid over the problem.

 

[faniebraai]

Because Android battery life is still an aspect that requires serious improvement. Throwing in a bigger battery to counter the higher battery drain by whatever services are running, is merely putting a band-aid over the problem.

But didn't the note 4 have a smaller battery than the 3? Also, I'm not saying battery life is perfect, but its obviously workable. I'm not going to make my phone a dumb terminal just so i can get through a day and a half instead of 1.

 

[Maverick Jester]

But didn't the note 4 have a smaller battery than the 3? Also, I'm not saying battery life is perfect, but its obviously workable. I'm not going to make my phone a dumb terminal just so i can get through a day and a half instead of 1.

Agreed, but I think that is the problem- that many Android users feel the need to turn their phones into a dumb terminal in order to have it last the day. I also think that battery life is overstated, but the Note 4 is not the best example to use- it has one of the biggest batteries on the smartphone market.

 

[TJ99]

Agreed, but I think that is the problem- that many Android users feel the need to turn their phones into a dumb terminal in order to have it last the day. I also think that battery life is overstated, but the Note 4 is not the best example to use- it has one of the biggest batteries on the smartphone market.

As before, turning data off is more a cost issue. Our "reading challenged" posters here have a problem grasping this, it seems. I know if I had proper uncapped 3G or LTE data, I'd leave mine on permanently regardless of the phone I use. It has nothing to do with Android, I had this problem with older Symbian smartphones before Android's time, and data-enabled dumbphones before that.

B the dubs, Windows phones have similar battery life and Apple phones considerably less than most Androids, especially the Note 4, so I'm not sure what alternative you're implying here.

 

[RASIMIONE]

Well i leave my screen on brightness at 30% with Google Now/Location Running. 3G Mobile Data is what I use cause we don't have 4G in Brits North West atleast the places I go to. I use the phone quite a bit at work, but i still get home with around 40/50%. That's very good if you ask me. Any phone that can go throughout the day not needing to be charged is boss according to my needs.

 

[Maverick Jester]

As before, turning data off is more a cost issue. Our "reading challenged" posters here have a problem grasping this, it seems. I know if I had proper uncapped 3G or LTE data, I'd leave mine on permanently regardless of the phone I use. It has nothing to do with Android, I had this problem with older Symbian smartphones before Android's time, and data-enabled dumbphones before that.

B the dubs, Windows phones have similar battery life and Apple phones considerably less than most Androids, especially the Note 4, so I'm not sure what alternative you're implying here.

That the Note 4 is not the best example of average battery life on Android devices.

 

[TJ99]

That the Note 4 is not the best example of average battery life on Android devices.

No, it's a bit better than average. My point was about average-battery phones though. Your S5, Z3 (full size), G3, that sort of thing.

They all have around 15% or so charge at the end of the day, where the Note would have 40 or 50.

I've never had to charge any of them through the day unless I was using it almost constantly.

 

[faniebraai]

As before, turning data off is more a cost issue. Our "reading challenged" posters here have a problem grasping this, it seems. I know if I had proper uncapped 3G or LTE data, I'd leave mine on permanently regardless of the phone I use. It has nothing to do with Android, I had this problem with older Symbian smartphones before Android's time, and data-enabled dumbphones before that.

B the dubs, Windows phones have similar battery life and Apple phones considerably less than most Androids, especially the Note 4, so I'm not sure what alternative you're implying here.

Who's talking about data usage and cost? Not me. I'm talking about battery life. You said wifi drains your battery I disagreed. Seems you are the one that is a bit challenged in the eye area.

 

[Tsepz_GP]

I don't get why people want to switch off every single thing that has a toggle just to save battery life every single day. Are you never close to a charger? Even when you at home and sleep? Are you not turning your glorious Note 4 into a Galaxy Pocket because you switch everything off and lower brightness to an extend that you actually need to be in a dark room where they develop photos to actually see wtf is going on on your screen. Even use dark backgrounds for power saving reasons. Fsck that. You have the best screen on a smartphone today and you decide on a black background? :wtf: "Oooh, look, I'm still on 70% when I get into bed... right next to my charger, and I don't even need to plug it in #awesomestdayever"

It's a powerful phone with an already powerful battery. I leave everything running and I still make it through the day with ease. If I'm going somewhere where my charger won't be available for a while there's always Ultra Power Saving Mode. Enough said.

Hmmm...

I don't turn everything off, just what I don't need regularly. I use my iPad for satnav so barely use GPS in my Note 4 so keep it in Power Save for location tagging, never use NFC so keep that off, don't have much use for Download Booster right now so Off, any built-in app I don't use e.g. G+, Google Play Music, ChatOn etc... Off.

I do the same with my iPad, turn off services/notifications I don't need.

 

[faniebraai]

Hmmm...

I don't turn everything off, just what I don't need regularly. I use my iPad for satnav so barely use GPS in my Note 4 so keep it in Power Save for location tagging, never use NFC so keep that off, don't have much use for Download Booster right now so Off, any built-in app I don't use e.g. G+, Google Play Music, ChatOn etc... Off.

I do the same with my iPad, turn off services/notifications I don't need.

I agree with all the ones you mentioned except the ones i use. G+, mainly for my foto backups and GPS I keep on as well

 

[shiverz]

It is widely known that Wi-Fi drains less battery than cellular reception. Turning reception off to save data is just weird. That's like seriously defending the purpose of having a smart phone I feel.

On battery life tho, I believe almost any phone can last a day (depending on type of usage of the user) with the right tweaking.

For example my Note 3 N9005. I'm running Temaseks CM12. I keep everything I don't use off. Only use 3G and LTE on when I know they are available.

Right of the bat I remove all unnecessary apps that are not required. To save space and lessen background running apps. Use Greenify to keep them asleep when not in use. Lean Droid controls the Wifi and reception during sleep. It turns them on every 5min to check for notifications. During 11pm to 5am it kills reception cos it's not needed in order to get deep sleep.

I use minimal blacked out gapps and material black theme. That means notification draw, quicktile settings, menus, phone dialer and settings menu are all black. This is known to use less battery on AMOLED screens. Lux Auto brightness controls brightness levels.

Lastly, and this is the kicker, I use Faux kernel enhancement pro to tweak the performance of the Rom kernel. It's set at 22.5mhz max and 300mhz min with core and temperature management. What this results in is perfect flat line deep sleep when not in use and I'm getting excellent battery life. I pull the phone of the charger at 5.15am and come home at 3pm with 70% battery left with moderate usage. It's 12.56am and I'm on 31%.

 

[shiverz]

Dafaq did I kill the thread?