Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (fanbois only please, no trolls)

[broken1]

Anyone got cashprices?

I see IncredibleConnection has it listed at R 10 999 on their website. I might just preorder from them ---listen to me, preordering something that has already been launched *sigh*

 

[faniebraai]

Anyone got cashprices?

I see IncredibleConnection has it listed at R 10 999 on their website. I might just preorder from them ---listen to me, preordering something that has already been launched *sigh*

Technically, it's only being launched tomorrow.

And what about getting it from Vodacom online?

 

[broken1]

Technically, it's only being launched tomorrow.

And what about getting it from Vodacom online?

Vodacom gives an error when you click Buy Now with Credit Card

 

[faniebraai]

Vodacom gives an error when you click Buy Now with Credit Card

Bastards

 

[Ninja_Theory]

I have asked this before, but didn't get a satisfactory answer. Why is 64bit important in a cellphone?

Ok here's my view on the 32-bit/64-bit thing.. First and foremost, 64-bit architecture opens the doors to heavy duty computing tasks, the kind of tasks you'd expect from a laptop. The market is clearly heading this way, we've seen more power being crammed into smaller devices for years now.

The most obvious benefit of 64-bit over 32-bit architecture is that 32-bit is limited to a memory address space of less than 4GB, whereas 64-bit does not have this constraint. This doesn't make much difference now as there are no phones with >3GB RAM atm. The future is heading to 8GB and 16GB RAM etc. Greater RAM basically means greater multitasking.

64-bit architecture won't make a difference with normal app usage, but when it comes to intensive processing tasks (like hectic calculations and graphics processing) there will be a noticeable difference in processing speed. 64-bit architecture processes tasks with half the number of operations that 32-bit architecture requires (this is a bit simplified but you get the idea). This means that 64-bit architecture opens the doors for exponentially more complex apps. It will be well-suited to music and graphics type apps (ranging from graphic design to gaming in particular.. we'll see a new breed of mobile games when 64-bit is mainstream).

So I don't see much downside in terms of business-type apps (unless they involve huge calculations) but when it comes to creativity-type apps (as mentioned above) it may hold back the true potential (or wider market segment reach) that the Note 4 is capable of selling into. I don't think Samsung mind tho, they're targeting the business market so it won't make any difference to the less tech-savvy peeps out there.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Anyone heard anything from MTN on pre-orders?

SO finally got through and the person said they 'might' be getting the phone end of the month. So yeah, clueless...

 

[Neural]

Get gold!

I hear that only the MTN shops will receive gold which is apparently an exclusive to them.

 

[plbartie]

Does anyone know if/when FNB will have the device?

 

[Ninja_Theory]

Vodacom just called me back and said stock will arrive tomorrow.. the dude couldn't confirm the time tho.

 

[faniebraai]

Vodacom just called me back and said stock will arrive tomorrow.. the dude couldn't confirm the time tho.

where? in store? or for online orders?

 

[Ninja_Theory]

where? in store? or for online orders?

Online. Vodacom Direct. Dude called me back to confirm cos I did online upgrade yesterday. Edit: does it make a difference where? They spun me some story that because I pre-ordered I'll get preference..

 

[Ninja_Theory]

Apple's (biased) view of the Note 4 vs. the iZombie Plus 6

 

[OGroteKoning]

Source here

Ok here's my view on the 32-bit/64-bit thing.. First and foremost, 64-bit architecture opens the doors to heavy duty computing tasks, the kind of tasks you'd expect from a laptop. The market is clearly heading this way, we've seen more power being crammed into smaller devices for years now.

The most obvious benefit of 64-bit over 32-bit architecture is that 32-bit is limited to a memory address space of less than 4GB, whereas 64-bit does not have this constraint. This doesn't make much difference now as there are no phones with >3GB RAM atm. The future is heading to 8GB and 16GB RAM etc. Greater RAM basically means greater multitasking.

64-bit architecture won't make a difference with normal app usage, but when it comes to intensive processing tasks (like hectic calculations and graphics processing) there will be a noticeable difference in processing speed. 64-bit architecture processes tasks with half the number of operations that 32-bit architecture requires (this is a bit simplified but you get the idea). This means that 64-bit architecture opens the doors for exponentially more complex apps. It will be well-suited to music and graphics type apps (ranging from graphic design to gaming in particular.. we'll see a new breed of mobile games when 64-bit is mainstream).

So I don't see much downside in terms of business-type apps (unless they involve huge calculations) but when it comes to creativity-type apps (as mentioned above) it may hold back the true potential (or wider market segment reach) that the Note 4 is capable of selling into. I don't think Samsung mind tho, they're targeting the business market so it won't make any difference to the less tech-savvy peeps out there.

Thanks to both of you. Imo, it is a huge overkill right now. But for development, I guess now is a good time to get the 64bit era going on mobiles. I reckon it would really start to be important for heavy users only from 2016 at the earliest, but for people just needing a phone with even today's complex apps, 32-bit is not a sales pitch at all

I hear that only the MTN shops will receive gold which is apparently an exclusive to them.

Er... I was being sarcastic... I don't like the gold. It looks

 

[jman]

Saw one at Incredible Connection in Sandton this morning. Think you'd be able to get it on contract. But dat screen :erm:

 

[Maverick Jester]

I have asked this before, but didn't get a satisfactory answer. Why is 64bit important in a cellphone?

To summarise:

Wider address spaces found in 64-bit hardware allow greater number of concurrent instructions, meaning that ultimately, more can be done in less time. This has a positive impact on both performance and battery life, less CPU uptime is required to perform the same set of activities.

Also, 64-bit addresses allow greater memory access (up to 16 exabytes of memory). It greatly increases the ceiling applied to multitasking, especially because the mobile OS's have not necessarily raised their overall memory requirements needed for the OS to operate at 64-bit.

iOS 8 and the iPhone 6 are excellent examples of the advantages that a properly optimised 64-bit OS can do- greatly improve battery life and performance, despite rather mediocre hardware specs.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Thanks to both of you. Imo, it is a huge overkill right now. But for development, I guess now is a good time to get the 64bit era going on mobiles. I reckon it would really start to be important for heavy users only from 2016 at the earliest, but for people just needing a phone with even today's complex apps, 32-bit is not a sales pitch at all

Not necessarily- increased performance while improving battery life are the immediate gains from a proper 64-bit setup. I'd take that today

 

[Ninja_Theory]

Thanks to both of you. Imo, it is a huge overkill right now. But for development, I guess now is a good time to get the 64bit era going on mobiles. I reckon it would really start to be important for heavy users only from 2016 at the earliest, but for people just needing a phone with even today's complex apps, 32-bit is not a sales pitch at all.

Yup I agree. Apple have to punt the 64-bit thing because they have Garage Band and other 64-bit process intensive apps they want to bring into their mobile ecosystem. So we will just end up benefiting because Apple's 64-bit drive has forced Android to come to the party. For now, it really makes no difference to Android dudes imo. Well, at least not for how I use my phone, and I'm sure that will be the same for most of us.

 

[Ninja_Theory]

Not necessarily- increased performance while improving battery life are the immediate gains from a proper 64-bit setup. I'd take that today

There wouldn't be a performance gain until the OS and apps are in 64-bit code. Yes, it will make a difference in the long run. When Android L comes that's the start of the next era, but it'll take a while for 64-bit apps to come into the fold. We're ok for now. Next upgrade will have to be 64-bit, no doubt about it. Edit: without a 64-bit kernel there can't be any gain in battery life. With Android L around the corner, I'd say you're right, there could be some battery performance gain. Not sure if it'd be enough to be concerned about tho, remains to be seen I suppose..

 

[soldierboi]

It has arrived Wooohooo.
Suddenly feel ill...need to go home

 

[faniebraai]

Damnit! Should've done the online thing...