Santam demanding certain customers get two trackers for cars at high risk of theft or hijacking

People, leave the Fortuna alone and rather go for the Pajero Sport or Isuzu MUX. You can avoid this stress.
 
Napalm2880 said:
Also, I learnt that tracker doesn't work across borders. i.e. if your vehicle is taken to Moz or Zim, forget about it.
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Not so true anymore. This was back in the day with certain Sim cards as they would lose carrier and not have roaming . Decent tracking company will now use a SADAC enabled Sim and roaming can be triggered via sms if necessary.
 
Kosmik said:
Not so true anymore. This was back in the day with certain Sim cards as they would lose carrier and not have roaming . Decent tracking company will now use a SADAC enabled Sim and roaming can be triggered via sms if necessary.
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But don't these tracking companies rely on their own private networks that would only be installed locally? I've seen a picture a while ago where someone had thought there was a bomb on a bridge which turned out to be a tracking company's base or relay station.
 
R13... said:
But don't these tracking companies rely on their own private networks that would only be installed locally? I've seen a picture a while ago where someone had thought there was a bomb on a bridge which turned out to be a tracking company's base or relay station.
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Only for close proximity but most use cellular data to transmit updates at intervals to servers. They try have contractual agreements with the cellular providers, for example MTN has strong presence in Moz and Swaziland, if I recall Voda was strong in Zim and Bots. Most cross-border units are fitted with dual Sims to cater for that.

That was specifically for a logistics company that ran trucks cross border, with a recognized tracking company. Not sure if non commercial units would be the same but the agreements and sms fallback would work regardless.
 
In 1998 when i bought one of the last new VR6 Golf's that was available some insurers straight out declined to insure it because it was a "high theft risk" vehicle.
 
Kosmik said:
The only good thing is the caveat in insurance that they will waive excess or shorten the total loss process if the tracking fails to recover the vehicle.
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My 2c: I reckon there are kickbacks from the tracker companies to insurers who specify the tracking requirement. If insurers were serious about limiting vehicle theft they would pressure manufacturers to install more security systems (note how belatedly Toyota made some simple fixes to HiLux/Fortuners) that prevent cars being stolen. Manufacturers are huge so they don't really care about what happens in SA and they get to sell another car. Government gets the VAT etc, they don't care.
 
Oldfut said:
My 2c: I reckon there are kickbacks from the tracker companies to insurers who specify the tracking requirement. If insurers were serious about limiting vehicle theft they would pressure manufacturers to install more security systems (note how belatedly Toyota made some simple fixes to HiLux/Fortuners) that prevent cars being stolen. Manufacturers are huge so they don't really care about what happens in SA and they get to sell another car. Government gets the VAT etc, they don't care.
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I agree with this. I don't know anyone that had their car recovered by a tracker. Even though most people that I know had cars stolen had them installed.
 
Yeah of course kickbacks are given, R200 for an Early Warning as example, but Insurers generally do not receive any, dealerships and brokers do.

And the vast majority of stolen vehicles are recovered.
 
I was with a certain tracker company for few vyears, then move to another one. This one did the following:
1-They clearly stated to me I as the owner never has to test the system, they do that.
2-Ok I had it installed in two vehicles.
3-After a year, I decided to try to get the systems tested, no luck=They cannot proved to me that they were able to test it, they cannot even access the system, you need a special tracker person near you, which I could not locate.

Result:I cancelled the systems, notified insurance=They refused to pay me back a years subscription, they also refused to come and emove both tackes fom my vehicles at my pemises, they did came to my premises to install them......So that is that.
 
It is because they are stealing cars and suv with keyless entry and they are doing it in less than 30s
 
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