SA's electric car boom is coming

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RonSwanson said:
Like with most things, he "acquires" it over time. Ever noticed how many shacks in informal settlements have DSTV dishes? They aren't there to keep the rain out. The signal that they receive gets descrambled by the DSTV decoder (subscription either paid by a child grant, or fiddled by an internal agent ) and presented on a 60" curved UHD screen acquired during the riots, powered by a bridged prepaid meter. South Africans might not be affluent, but they are very creative problem solvers.
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Correct. And the squatter camp will be where your EV will be broken up into non ferrous scrap which will spawn a whole new informal industry.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
I live remotely in SA. My nearest supermarket is over 150 km away. An EV is not going to cut it here.
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I'm looking for a 450km range, there are EV's out there that can do that. Admittedly they cost more.

Audi e-Tron does 441km, or so they claim. Many Tesla's do much more.

Just read a tweet from some guy selling his Tesla after 3 years, huge mileage (80k +miles), for quite a good price. Was never charged from mains or Supercharger, just from solar panels.
 
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wingnut771 said:
What's your point?
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It's one of the great mysteries. No one knows. From the above posts he seems to think electric cars use power based on time you stand still in traffic, not not per distance covered. And something about scrap metal.

Now watch this space how he argues for 10 posts how they do use power while standing still. Nevermind it's so minuscule to not be relevant.
 
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It's one of the great mysteries. No one knows. From the above posts he seems to think electric cars use power based on time you stand still in traffic, not not per distance covered. And something about scrap metal.

Now watch this space how he argues for 10 posts how they do use power while standing still. Nevermind it's so minuscule to not be relevant.
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You're telling me there is absolutely no current draw at all with a stationary EV?
 
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notayoba said:
It's one of the great mysteries. No one knows. From the above posts he seems to think electric cars use power based on time you stand still in traffic, not not per distance covered. And something about scrap metal.

Now watch this space how he argues for 10 posts how they do use power while standing still. Nevermind it's so minuscule to not be relevant.
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Yeah, also don't get what he is saying. I have driven with my EV to work and back. Same 55km. Once in about 30 minutes and once in 4 hours due to a huge accident. Battery usage was virtually identical - maybe a 1% difference if that much.
 
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notayoba said:
It's one of the great mysteries. No one knows. From the above posts he seems to think electric cars use power based on time you stand still in traffic, not not per distance covered. And something about scrap metal.

Now watch this space how he argues for 10 posts how they do use power while standing still. Nevermind it's so minuscule to not be relevant.
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Cosmik Debris said:
You're telling me there is absolutely no current draw at all with a stationary EV?
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:ROFL:
 
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What would be great (power issues aside) for us to get take-up on EV is dropping the insane taxes levied on them.
(all using today's GBP/ZAR and from bmw.co.uk and bmw.co.za)

Based on Combustion:
BMW 320i UK base: R 659 017
BMW 320i ZA base: R 690 900
Difference Approx: R 31 883

Electric:
BMW i3 UK base: R 683 489.00
BMW i3 ZA base: R754 200.00
Difference Approx: R 70 711.00

Clearly the Electric costs far more here - and even higher as I didn't factor in the government/tax credits many countries offer for switching to Electric...
 
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neoprema said:
What would be great (power issues aside) for us to get take-up on EV is dropping the insane taxes levied on them.
(all using today's GBP/ZAR and from bmw.co.uk and bmw.co.za)

Based on Combustion:
BMW 320i UK base: R 659 017
BMW 320i ZA base: R 690 900
Difference Approx: R 31 883

Electric:
BMW i3 UK base: R 683 489.00
BMW i3 ZA base: R754 200.00
Difference Approx: R 70 711.00

Clearly the Electric costs far more here - and even higher as I didn't factor in the government/tax credits many countries offer for switching to Electric...
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That's a real issue.

One other real issue that will crop up once this things starts gaining momentum is how to fund roads. Currently our fuel levies contribute a large part of that. (although it's not ringfenced for that, so who knows how much is used for new Rolexes and fur coats for the cadres)
 
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notayoba said:
That's a real issue.

One other real issue that will crop up once this things starts gaining momentum is how to fund roads. Currently our fuel levies contribute a large part of that. (although it's not ringfenced for that, so who knows how much is used for new Rolexes and fur coats for the cadres)
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Yep.

I came extremely close to an EV this time when i bought a new car. I think my next purchase 2 or 3 years is definitely going to be EV.
 
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neoprema said:
Yep.

I came extremely close to an EV this time when i bought a new car. I think my next purchase 2 or 3 years is definitely going to be EV.
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Same here. I drive a car as long as it stays reliable and doesn't cost a fortune to fix. Once that first big repair bill comes in, it's time for a new one. With modern cars that point where they give expensive trouble seems to be around the 10 year/250k mark. Current car is under 2 years old, so I'm almost certain my next one will be electric.
 
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