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Your opinion that every/all religious belief/s is a disease that should be eradicated.
Would that include Atheism?
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Stupidity knows no bounds it appears.

Keep on believing that though - won't get you far ;)
 
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It is called a double standard. I'm not really all that religious but really the thought that Atheist should take up the mantle of worldview police when they are responsible for the most systematic destruction of a people in the history of mankind to me is incredibly intellectually bankrupt position to be held.

If the Buddhist wants that mantle then I think it may be OK, but not an atheist. They seem to be more convinced of their own nobility than any Christian is of his.
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You are very deluded. Would be nice if you backed up those statements

In before you point to Hitler and them Jews. Hitler wasn't an atheist.
 
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I think that the correct view to be held is that because Worldviews are held by people, worldviews just like people cannot be perfect. You can say a lot about the sins of religion, some of it may be fair and some not, but it is not like Atheism does not have its own set of sins.

So I think if you keep an open mind, learning about different religions, the good and the bad can be a good way to take some of the good, discard some of the bad and get to your own ethical framework that you can live, life with.
 
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Statistically. Yes.
Glad you're aware of that fact though
A shite ton of funds have gone into studies to prove just that :D
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Goodness according to who? You have thousands of years if philosophical inquiry on what is considered good, there is a whole branch of philosophy dedicated to this question.

What kind of study is going to have any validity when you cannot even have a definition of what is considered good without some sort of bias. I don't think philosophy has 'studies' as the scientific world has.
 
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Goodness according to who? You have thousands of years if philosophical inquiry on what is considered good, there is a whole branch of philosophy dedicated to this question.

What kind of study is going to have any validity when you cannot even have a definition of what is considered good without some sort of bias.
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Ever heard the saying - proof is in the pudding? Look around you at the world you inhabit.
Research it bud - take 10min out your clearly unoccupied life and do your own research.

You'll certainly learn a whole lot more that way.
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If the Buddhist wants that mantle then I think it may be OK, but not an atheist. They seem to be more convinced of their own nobility than any Christian is of his.
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Firstly, don't be sexist. Women are allowed to be Christians.

Secondly, I don't recall what particular ideology you adhere to. Care to inform me?
 
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Here - throw in some humour and learning becomes fun

Don't miss the point between the laughs. No truer words were ever said

 
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A zealot is a zealot.
Militant-type Atheists are zealots that be no different to other zealots, and arguably worse.
 
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A zealot is a zealot.
Militant-type Atheists are zealots that be no different to other zealots, and arguably worse.
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Better than being a kunt in that last carriage. The future looks bleak for those folks.
 
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A zealot is a zealot.
Militant-type Atheists are zealots that be no different to other zealots, and arguably worse.
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:sleep::sleep::sleep:

Please dude. I'm struggling as it is to stay awake till home time.

Repeating things over and over and over does not truth make. It does however, make ones eyes droop, as soft snores escape the nostrils...
 
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Firstly, don't be sexist. Women are allowed to be Christians.

Secondly, I don't recall what particular ideology you adhere to. Care to inform me?
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I'm committed to free thought. I guess the closest label you could call me is an Agnostic. My upbringing was mostly secular, but I don't consider myself an atheist because simply put Horatio there is more under heaven and earth that is dreamt up in my philosophy.

Free thought a lot of time seems to be a euphemism for atheism, but I don't think that is fair. I think free thought as Peter-Dirk Uys teaches is an openness to different views, a natural curiosity into how other people live and learning about different views in an attempt to inform your own view.

I'm not against any religion, what I'm really against is indoctrination. I don't feel the need to force my views on other people and I don't like it when other people do it.

Atheist often trow that indoctrination word around but real indoctrination is incredibly scary like if you see indoctrination at a real cult, you will wish you would be at church, that is what I'm against.
 
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I'm committed to free thought. I guess the closest label you could call me is an Agnostic. My upbringing was mostly secular, but I don't consider myself an atheist because simply put Horatio there is more under heaven and earth that is dreamt up in my philosophy.

Free thought a lot of time seems to be a euphemism for atheism, but I don't think that is fair. I think free thought as Peter-Dirk Uys teaches is an openness to different views, a natural curiosity into how other people live and learning about different views in an attempt to inform your own view.

I'm not against any religion, what I'm really against is indoctrination. I don't feel the need to force my views on other people and I don't like it when other people do it.

Atheist often trow that indoctrination word around but real indoctrination is incredibly scary like if you see indoctrination at a real cult, you will wish you would be at church, that is what I'm against.
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Strange. You come across as being religious. I mean, you just said something earlier like, "I'm not really that religious". Which means you at least a bit religious.

You also seem to spend more time defending religion and dissing atheism.

Anyway, what do you know about "real" cults?
 
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