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[Ponderer]

Dude - as above. You are either lying to us, or to yourself. You're a "little bit" religious as per your own words, and while you state you are not against anything, you clearly have an axe to grind with atheism.

And Jehova's are a mainstream religion. If they are a cult, then so are other churches.

You lied when you said you know what Agnostic means.
Your post shows that you don't know.

 

[cheesus]

And Jehova's are a mainstream religion. If they are a cult, then so are other churches.

I'm just going to ask you to educate yourself, this is the authoritative site on the issue.

authority

There is a massive difference between a cult and a religion, if you want to educate yourself in what a cult really is, that link is for you.

Especially the articles here

 

[surface]

I'm just going to ask you to educate yourself, this is the authoritative site on the issue.

authority

There is a massive difference between a cult and a religion, if you want to educate yourself in what a cult really is, that link is for you.

So fine elegant nuances between murderer, serial killer and some dictator who ordered genocide?

 

[Splinter]

You lied when you said you know what Agnostic means.
Your post shows that you don't know.

Oh really?

Please show, clearly, how I don't know.

 

[Splinter]

I'm just going to ask you to educate yourself, this is the authoritative site on the issue.

authority

There is a massive difference between a cult and a religion, if you want to educate yourself in what a cult really is, that link is for you.

Especially the articles here

Thanks, but no. I'm not doing homework on this. Are you saying Jehova's are not a religion?.

 

[cheesus]

Oh well if you want to take my word for it be free, seeing as your not religious I thought you would prefer an account from trained professionals over some random guy on the internet, but brah if you want to take what I say on blind faith, feel free.

Jesus what kind of atheist are you when people show you a site with people with phd coming out of the yazoo, to try and relieve you of your ignorance and you are too lazy to read.

 

[Splinter]

Oh well if you want to take my word for it be free, seeing as your not religious I thought you would prefer an account from trained professionals over some random guy on the internet, but brah if you want to take what I say on blind faith, feel free.

Jesus what kind of atheist are you when people show you a site with people with phd coming out of the yazoo, to try and relieve you of your ignorance and you are too lazy to read.

You still haven't given me a response on the Jehova's thing?

Anyway, thanks for once again having a go at atheists. Calling me lazy and ignorant because I don't want to read a number of links you just happened to have on hand?

Anyway, I'm saying you are lying through your teeth when you claim to be not against anything. You are just trolling atheists - in the disguise of being some happy clappy, free-thought monk travelling through cyberspace.

Rather detestable, says I.

 

[rambo919]

This is not true. Homosexuals weren't welcome in Nazi Germany.

True enough but Hitler himself did not care either way. He considered them perverts but as long as they performed he was fine with it.

 

[Jabulani22]

No its not - both oppressive religions.
One is past and one is current.

How oppressive of Christian countries to give us things like the wheel , space flight and computers .

 

[noxibox]

I'm committed to free thought. I guess the closest label you could call me is an Agnostic. My upbringing was mostly secular, but I don't consider myself an atheist because simply put Horatio there is more under heaven and earth that is dreamt up in my philosophy.

Being agnostic/gnostic is orthogonal to being theist\atheist. Quite why some people try to co-opt the word agnostic to pretend there is some fence-sitting option and they're on that fence I don't know.

I'm not against any religion, what I'm really against is indoctrination. I don't feel the need to force my views on other people and I don't like it when other people do it.

Atheist often trow that indoctrination word around but real indoctrination is incredibly scary like if you see indoctrination at a real cult, you will wish you would be at church, that is what I'm against.

But fundamentalists do want their religion forced on everyone. That's why they campaign to get their religion made the law, why they want it in every school and so on.

Religion is what you bring to it. You bring violence, your religion is violence.

But it claims this not to be the case. It's supposed to be the clear, unequivocal instructions of some deity.

Not real muslims.

Nothing particularly surprising there. Christians did the same thing. This is what happens when the gods don't express themselves clearly.

Mohammed was a smart dude - knew his people, had backward tribes to indoctrinate and 1500 later we still have this **** going on.

Wow indeed.

He was the one smart person in the area? Did Jesus also know he had backward tribes to indoctrinate?

 

[noxibox]

How oppressive of Christian countries to give us things like the wheel , space flight and computers .

There is a long history of non-Christians contributing to human knowledge. It's rather laughable the way Christians try to pretend they're the sole source of human knowledge and progress.

 

[ForceFate]

How oppressive of Christian countries to give us things like the wheel , space flight and computers .

The wheel was invented long before Christianity existed.

 

[Jabulani22]

Being agnostic/gnostic is orthogonal to being theist\atheist. Quite why some people try to co-opt the word agnostic to pretend there is some fence-sitting option and they're on that fence I don't know.


But fundamentalists do want their religion forced on everyone. That's why they campaign to get their religion made the law, why they want it in every school and so on.


But it claims this not to be the case. It's supposed to be the clear, unequivocal instructions of some deity.


Nothing particularly surprising there. Christians did the same thing. This is what happens when the gods don't express themselves clearly.


He was the one smart person in the area? Did Jesus also know he had backward tribes to indoctrinate?

Pretty sure people would rather have Christian values taught in school rather than this..........

 

[Jabulani22]

There is a long history of non-Christians contributing to human knowledge. It's rather laughable the way Christians try to pretend they're the sole source of human knowledge and progress.

Not the sole source but indeed the majority of , also they have improved on other ideas too .

 

[Jabulani22]

The wheel was invented long before Christianity existed.

Ok so just all the other stuff then .

 

[cheesus]

Pretty sure people would rather have Christian values taught in school rather than this..........

I wanna enter comic-cons cosplay competition with that women, should be killer.

But fundamentalists do want their religion forced on everyone. That's why they campaign to get their religion made the law, why they want it in every school and so on.

Have I given you the idea that I'm a fundamentalist? I would have to reconsider my posts here if I did. I don't quite understand why you would bring up the issue of fundamentalism in response to me saying I'm committed to free thought.

I don't know if what you say is all that true because there have been a few Christian leaders in the US, who have said that the removal of state-religion in the US is one of the main reasons why religious exercise has been so effective in the US. Noting also if Europe would abandon state-religion like a lot of secular people want, then it would lead to a religious renaissance the like's of which Europe has not experienced since the reformation. Which I guess is really ironic.

I think you are succumbing to McCarthyism.

 

[TysonRoux]

Not real muslims.

Nothing particularly surprising there. Christians did the same thing. This is what happens when the gods don't express themselves clearly.

I have yet to hear of any of the gods expressing themselves clearly.

 

[Thor]

Nuke them.

 

[ForceFate]

Ok so just all the other stuff then .

If contraptions used for accounting and arithmetics qualify to be called computers, then no. Unless we're referring to modern computers. Even those had nothing to do with the religion itself.

 

[Jabulani22]

If contraptions used for accounting and arithmetics qualify to be called computers, then no. Unless we're referring to modern computers. Even those had nothing to do with the religion itself.

Talking about the environment which fostered all these nice inventions , predominantly Christian countries have tended to be the place where all this came from , as opposed to gunpowder in China 1000 years ago and nothing until now.