Schalk Burger - I'm now sick of his nonsense

DJ...

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Never figured Pro Arte allowed top matric DJ's to play in there 1st rugby team:p

I'm sure you know what this means. As you know, I'm a Durbanite - I don't know the names of your parents' Pretoria schools...:p
 

killadoob

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Well devil i don't think picard has a problem with the aggression shown by bakkies, more the arrogant way he taunts the opposition hehe.

I enjoy it though, that is part of rugby. Eye gauging though is not part of the sport and nor will it ever be.
 

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I'm sure you know what this means. As you know, I'm a Durbanite - I don't know the names of your parents' Pretoria schools...:p

that explains how you got junior colours and played 1st team and all the rest.

I mean it was probably between you and the kid with the hunched back and shorter left leg (Ruan Pienaar):D
 

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Well devil i don't think picard has a problem with the aggression shown by bakkies, more the arrogant way he taunts the opposition hehe.

I think he does, he wants to watch them hug and cry and say sorry after every tackle :p:D

I enjoy it though, that is part of rugby. Eye gauging though is not part of the sport and nor will it ever be.

+1. But bakkies is doing nothing illegal and he is doing his work in the tight as well as the loose.
 

killadoob

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Typing with one hand. Your mom emailed me some new pics...:eek: :p


Hahahah :D

Strange thing about picard did he not go on about how gay earnings are but then goes on to say that rugby players are too manly :p
 

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Disgraceful De Villiers

In a surreal interview Peter de Villiers continues to deny Schalk Burger was guilty of eye gouging and delivers some of the most sensational rubbish he’s ever uttered.

De Villiers on Monday held court with a room full of journalists, the majority of those from the foreign press, and proceeded to spit the most ridiculous nonsense, and display an incredibly pompous and dismissive attitude, particularly towards the foreign contingent. For those present it was obvious that he has a very low opinion of them.

The questioning predictably centred around Burger’s eight-week ban for eye gouging Lions wing Luke Fitzgerald, an issue that the Springbok media team tried to dodge by saying that they would only comment after they had received an official report on the incident. You didn’t need an official report to know that Burger is unbelievably lucky not to receive a longer ban.

On Saturday De Villiers left the press incredulous by saying that Burger didn’t deserve a yellow card for the incident, let alone a citing. On Monday the coach had an opportunity to retract that ludicrous statement and concede that he was wrong. Yet he remained resolute in his flawed view.

‘I stand by Schalk, I’m still convinced he didn’t do it,’ he told keo.co.za. ‘When you watch the footage closely and if you know the nature of Schalk, you’ll know that he will never go to those measures to impose himself. Schalk certainly didn’t do anything on purpose. He watched the TV footage and was taken aback himself.

‘I am against anything that is against the spirit of the game. If we want to eye gouge lions, we’ll go down to the bushveld and eye gouge them there, then see if they can haul us in.’

When one of the travelling pressmen continued the line of questioning, De Villiers snapped, ‘Some of us seem to have a hearing problem. We’re waiting for the official report and we’ll see what that says. If they find him guilty of something we’ll abide by that decision.

‘I’m not ducking the issue, I’m working within a system. I’m not like you [the media] who don’t work within a system.’

De Villiers said he doesn’t condone foul play [the likes of which Burger was clearly guilty of], yet continued to inadvertently justify the incident.

‘Rugby is a contact sport and so is dancing,’ he said. ‘If you guys [the media] were clued up you’d know that there were so many incidents that we could have complained about, like the incident where a Lions player maliciously jumped into one of ours with their shoulder.

‘But we didn’t do it because this is a contact sport. If you are going to complain about every incident we might as well go to a ballet shop and all get tutus.’

Despite the series victory, there is a widely held view that the Springboks beat the Lions despite of their coach and not because of him. De Villiers’ rebuttal, ‘Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don’t react to opinion, I react to fact,’ he said.

‘If I’m the weakest link then we are bloody strong. I’m a God-given talent. I am the best I can be. I know what I am and I don’t give a damn.’

He continued by saying he didn’t read the papers, and therefore didn’t know how he was perceived in the media.

‘I don’t care. I don’t take an interest in your job, but I’m glad you take an interest in mine.’

Any preceding Springbok coach would have been seriously taken to task by the administration, but De Villiers gives one the impression, through his attitude and unbridled hogwash that he delivered on Monday, that he believes he is a law unto himself.

The reality is that he was an embarrassment to South African rugby, as he was when he offered his racially loaded views relating to Ricky Januarie, for which he will have to answer to the president’s council.

The same president’s council who appointed him based on his skin colour and not his rugby credentials (they confirmed this themselves when announcing his appointment), are now pointing the finger at him when they should be held partly accountable for the perception he is creating of himself, and by association, the Springboks, and South Africans in general.

De Villiers considers himself to be an ambassador for South Africa. He has said so on numerous occasions. But he is doing anything but creating a favourable impression of this country.

He needs to be reined in immediately. Word from inside the Springbok camp is that he just refuses to listen to any advice offered by his media managers, and as a result he is destroying any credibility he might have left.

Today he was a disgrace and he’s single-handedly detracted from the wonderful achievement of winning a Lions series. Hopefully it’s the last time we’ll have to endure a senseless rant like this from De Villiers. Don’t hold your breath though.

By Ryan Vrede, Johannesburg

http://www.keo.co.za/2009/06/29/disgraceful-de-villiers/
 

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Excellent finally a coach who stands up for his players regardless... Bravo..
 

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Excellent finally a coach who stands up for his players regardless... Bravo..

He basically states that he condones this behavior!

Eye gouging has no place in rugby! And PdiV is an embarrassment to this country.
 

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All this hoopla is nonsense. The Lion fans are sad they lost and they are deflecting there frustrations onto burger. The guy had a lapse, and he will sit through his eight week ban as he must, and will then have to fight his way back into the bok team as he should. There is no more story there.

Regarding PDIV

He is occasionally an idiot but we have to still play fair. It's worth reading all that he said at the press conference, and not just the sensationalist snipits coming from the worlds journo's.


“If you know Schalk’s nature and character - if you know the man as I know him - he would never do this,” said de Villiers.

“He is more physical than any other rugby player in the world.

“To go to those kind of measures, he would never ever do it. And I don’t think he did it.

“I have watched the television footage and I am still convinced there is no way he went there on purpose. He never meant to go to anybody’s eye.

“Eye-gouging is something that we as a team, and especially me, will never condone. Along with biting, head-butting and spear-tackling - all those things that don’t belong in the game.

“I am against anything that is not in the spirit of the game. We have brilliant players in this country, and to try to prepare them for stuff that belongs in the bushveld is nonsense.

“If we want to eye-gouge any lions we would go into the bushveld and eye-gouge there.

“But we would never ever encourage anybody to be part of anything negative or bringing the game into disrepute.

“We want to promote the game among our youth. We want this game to be the biggest nation-building tool there ever can be.

“By encouraging stuff like that then we are fighting a lost cause. I would never, ever encourage it.”

“What we must understand here very, very clearly is that rugby is a contact sport - and so is dancing.

“There were so many incidents in that game (the second Test) that we could go and say we want to cite this guy for maliciously jumping into another guy’s face with his shoulder.

“Why don’t we do it? The reason we don’t do it is because this game will always be a game to us.

“If we are going to win games in boardrooms and in front of television cameras and in shops, we must say to ourselves, ‘Do we really respect this game that we really honour so much’?

“If it’s the case that we are, why don’t we all go to the nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus and get some great dancing going on. No eye-gouging, no tackling, no nothing. Then enjoy.

“But in this game there will be collisions. There are no collisions in ballet.

“And the guy who wins the collisions hardest is the guy we always will select.”

De Villiers, who described Burger as “an honourable man,” denied he was ducking the issue over an incident that incensed Lions management and left Fitzgerald requiring treatment before he was able to continue.

“I am not ducking the issue,” he said. “I am working as part of a system.

“We are waiting until the (judicial officer’s) report so we can dissect the whole thing and come to you with an informed answer.

“Let me tell you, if you look at the footage properly and you know the man you are working with properly, then you can see why I said it is not a yellow card.”

“If I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong!” he added.

“I didn’t know about the perception, and I do not even have time to think about it. I know myself that I am a God-given talent.

“I am the best ever that I can be, so whatever you think about me doesn’t bother me. I know what I am, and I don’t give a damn.

“We have waited 29 years for this great occasion (beating the Lions).

“I would love the Lions supporters to honour the fact we have won the hardest and best Test series I have seen in quite a while.

“I would love people to just stand up, take it on the chin and say ‘Well done for victory, well done for what you have achieved in the series and well done for winning’.

“Nobody has congratulated us up until now. Maybe they will do so after the third Test.”
 
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He basically states that he condones this behavior!

Eye gouging has no place in rugby! And PdiV is an embarrassment to this country.
Quite the contrary, Schalk denies intentionally eye gouging the opponent and PDV is standing by him and backing him up, bravo... As is typical of the British they whining about our conduct to detract from their own ineptness, dirty play (Sheridan) and failures...
 

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Yea interesting to see how the journalists put it out, wow.

I hope we crush the lions in the third test.
 

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“If you know Schalk’s nature and character - if you know the man as I know him - he would never do this,” said de Villiers.

“He is more physical than any other rugby player in the world.

“To go to those kind of measures, he would never ever do it. And I don’t think he did it.

“I have watched the television footage and I am still convinced there is no way he went there on purpose. He never meant to go to anybody’s eye.

“Eye-gouging is something that we as a team, and especially me, will never condone. Along with biting, head-butting and spear-tackling - all those things that don’t belong in the game.

“I am against anything that is not in the spirit of the game. We have brilliant players in this country, and to try to prepare them for stuff that belongs in the bushveld is nonsense.

“If we want to eye-gouge any lions we would go into the bushveld and eye-gouge there.
What more do you want?
 

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Yea interesting to see how the journalists put it out, wow.

I hope we crush the lions in the third test.
Journos are a bunch of C_nts, all after the same thing, rubbish people and their reputations in the pursuit of newspaper sales...
 

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All this hoopla is nonsense. The Lion fans are sad they lost and they are deflecting there frustrations onto burger. The guy had a lapse, and he will sit through his eight week ban as he must, and will then have to fight his way back into the bok team as he should. There is no more story there.

Regarding PDIV

He is occasionally an idiot but we have to still play fair. It's worth reading all that he said at the press conference, and not just the sensationalist snipits coming from the worlds journo's.

“If you know Schalk’s nature and character - if you know the man as I know him - he would never do this,” said de Villiers.

“He is more physical than any other rugby player in the world.

“To go to those kind of measures, he would never ever do it. And I don’t think he did it.

“I have watched the television footage and I am still convinced there is no way he went there on purpose. He never meant to go to anybody’s eye.

“Eye-gouging is something that we as a team, and especially me, will never condone. Along with biting, head-butting and spear-tackling - all those things that don’t belong in the game.

They just want sensation to sell papers.... Sad really.
 

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Sure we don't want wimps. I'm all for aggression, physicality, roughness, &c. Rugby is a contact sport. Which is why I love it. I also played No.6 before The Rinderpest.

But open dirt is just that. Vuilgat. Burger has become an embarrassment.
 
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