Schalk Burger - I'm now sick of his nonsense

[sand_man]

My problem from the start was his disrespectful smirking as he walks away from a fight as if to say those guys are a bunch of useless w@nkers.

I get what you saying but I don't think it's a disrespectful smirk at all. What he is saying is, ''come on, you want to dance with me, I'll dance with you, but don't stand on my toes, careful, don't you mess up my dancing shoes!!!!''.

Bakkies is the ultimate rugby player, the epitome of the modern day gladiator. Between those 4 white lines is his play ground, it's his domain and his territory. I love the man and the way he plays the game.....

BAKKIES FOR PRESIDENT!!!

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

+1 We all know Saffas are being targetted. Like Jake white said if McCaw or Waugh had long blond hair they would have been yellow carded so many times they would have been banned.

I tend to agree.

Wow, you sound like a typical Pom with your whinging . Burger got off lightly if you hadn't noticed. 8 weeks instead of the usual 12 weeks. Yeah I am sure they are getting targeted unfairly. Yeah, Sheridan should have been cited, but it the Citing Commissioner didn't feel it was worthy. Remember also that one player could not go on the Lions Tour because their ban, if the IRB were as prejudiced as you are making them out to be, they would have either enforced a 'lighter' ban or no ban at all.

 

[Devill]

Wow, you sound like a typical Pom with your whinging . Burger got off lightly if you hadn't noticed. 8 weeks instead of the usual 12 weeks. Yeah I am sure they are getting targeted unfairly. Yeah, Sheridan should have been cited, but it the Citing Commissioner didn't feel it was worthy. Remember also that one player could not go on the Lions Tour because their ban, if the IRB were as prejudiced as you are making them out to be, they would have either enforced a 'lighter' ban or no ban at all.

Go look at the S14 season..... Then come back and explain to me how 3 very dangerous tackles from Aussies/kiwis never got cited but south african players were banned for 1-4 weeks left and right.....

Ps the italian player from the weekends game against the kiwis als got a 8 week bann so all is on par and burger did not get of lightly.

Tell me since when is a shot in the nuts by another players FIST not worthy of a citing? Never mind the 3 dangerous high tackles....

 

[killadoob]

I get what you saying but I don't think it's a disrespectful smirk at all. What he is saying is, ''come on, you want to dance with me, I'll dance with you, but don't stand on my toes, careful, don't you mess up my dancing shoes!!!!''.

Bakkies is the ultimate rugby player, the epitome of the modern day gladiator. Between those 4 white lines is his play ground, it's his domain and his territory. I love the man and the way he plays the game.....

BAKKIES FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Now this i fully agree with .

As for people out to the saffas i think you need my tinfoil hat devil

Yea that high tackle on Habana was worthy of a citing in my opinion, grabbed him around the neck and wrestled him to the floor.

 

[sand_man]

Yeah got off lightly, have you even watched the footage of the incident? It's a joke!!! As soon as a guy has his hand in a players face we assume he is going for the eyes? oh but it's dirty old Schalk so he must have been going for the eyes.

Like in the world cup when it was dirty old Schalk again, dangerous tackle take a month off Schalk. Only the intervention of an outstanding lawyer could have that sentence reduced to 2 weeks. Unless you can argue your way of it they will try and ban you for as long as the laws permit...

Only in rugby do players need a frigging lawyer to defend how they play the game...

 

[sand_man]

Do administrators not consider that in the heat of the moment one might find one's hands in odd places? Accidents happen like the midfield collision between O Driscoll and Danie that left Danie dazed and clearly concussed. Why not ban O Driscoll for a head butt cause in my opinion it's exactly the same as Schalks being banned for. Accidentially having his fingers close to a players eye's in much the same fashion O Driscoll accidentally head butted the lights out of Danie...

 

[Pitbull]

Do administrators not consider that in the heat of the moment one might find one's hands in odd places? Accidents happen like the midfield collision between O Driscoll and Danie that left Danie dazed and clearly concussed. Why not ban O Driscoll for a head butt cause in my opinion it's exactly the same as Schalks being banned for. Accidentially having his fingers close to a players eye's in much the same fashion O Driscoll accidentally head butted the lights out of Danie...

Pls tell me your joking....

Seriously how the **** can you condone him scratching at a guy's eye?

Rugby is no sport for sissies, but trying to end someone's career is not on in my books. He's hand had no business in that guy's eye. Nor was the gouging that was going on, I'm wondering if you actually looked at the footage. Your view on this actually tells something different

Spear tackles, not using their arms in tackles and gouging should be handled in a very serious light. That can end players careers, and not sportsman like at all

 

[Toxin]

Wow cited 3 times in 6 years of playing rugby. Please call the police so they can arrest him! He is a criminal!

How many yellow cards has he had in his 6 years of playing rugby? I agree with you that he's not a "dirty" player, but he does have a nack of getting himself into trouble. Especially in the beginning of his Bok career.

 

[Devill]

How many yellow cards has he had in his 6 years of playing rugby? I agree with you that he's not a "dirty" player, but he does have a nack of getting himself into trouble. Especially in the beginning of his Bok career.

Yes I agree but "proffesional fouls" does not warrent anyone caling him a dirty player.

I also think if McCaw or Waugh had long blonde hair they would have been penalised to shlt.

I do agree that getting yellow carded means you let your team down, but lets be fair here we were singled out a bit... 3 high tackles and a clear punch to the nuts not one of which was penalised on the field and not one called out for a citing.... How is that fair?

Also bakkies has now matured a bit and thats why mostly he now walks away smiling knowing the other player is losing consentration and all that.

 

[sand_man]

Pls tell me your joking....

Seriously how the **** can you condone him scratching at a guy's eye?

Rugby is no sport for sissies, but trying to end someone's career is not on in my books. He's hand had no business in that guy's eye. Nor was the gouging that was going on, I'm wondering if you actually looked at the footage. Your view on this actually tells something different

Spear tackles, not using their arms in tackles and gouging should be handled in a very serious light. That can end players careers, and not sportsman like at all

Not condoning it, merely suggesting that contrary to popular belief it may not have been intentional.

Because it's Burger everyone automatically assumes he is guilty!!! Had it been John Smit or Jean De Villiers or Ruan Pienaar or Brian Habana or Adi Jacobs or Pierre Spies or Juan Smit who had been involved in that incident everyone would be shouting it was accidental, they not dirty players, must have been accidental but because it's Burger everyone shouting must have been trying to gouge the guys eyes out, must have been looking to end the guys career... Please do me a favour, it's a lot of sh1te, watch the bloody footage, all 5 seconds of it and tell me he was trying to scratch the guys eyes out, in front of the ref, in front of the touch judge, on national and international tv, knowing his reputation is what it is, knowing every aspect of the match is recorded, knowing he would lose 2 months of match revenue and possibly his position in the Springbok squad... I don't buy it, once again he has failed to get the right legal representative to state his claim and once again he has fallen foul of his reputation and tag of a dirty player...

It's sad but he will forever be a soft target for refs and players alike and the bottom line is his only crime is being physically brutal...

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Bakkies cleaning out Jones earns him a 2 week ban, you got to be kidding me???!!!! That was deemed a dangerous tackle worthy of a 2 week ban, it's a focking joke!!!

 

[Morgoth]

He build up his own reputation and got only himself to blame for it,

 

[sand_man]

He build up his own reputation and got only himself to blame for it,

Aint that the truth, like being a premature ejaculator I guess..

 

[Picard]

If you would ever want to break someones neck ... that would be one way of doing it.

If it was somebody smaller that person could have been seriously injured.

 

[killadoob]

Do you think a charge like that from bakkies could break a players neck? Does everyone charge other players like that?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Go look at the S14 season..... Then come back and explain to me how 3 very dangerous tackles from Aussies/kiwis never got cited but south african players were banned for 1-4 weeks left and right.....

Ps the italian player from the weekends game against the kiwis als got a 8 week bann so all is on par and burger did not get of lightly.

As the BBC noted:

Sometimes sentences are reduced on the basis that actions are deemed reckless rather than intentional, as was the case with Italy captain Sergio Parisse, who was also given an eight-week ban for gouging All Black lock Isaac Ross in Auckland on Saturday.

But no such mitigation was given by the judicial officer in the case of Burger, who was found guilty of 'making contact with the face in the eye area'.

So Sandman, what exactly was he trying to do? Looked completely blatant/intentional from most people's point of view. And it was the first 30 seconds of the match and IIRC, the ball was not even 'near' the face or that player. If he has a reputation for being a 'dirty' player, you'd think he'd be a bit more careful with his actions on the field...

 

[sand_man]

If you would ever want to break someones neck ... that would be one way of doing it.

If it was somebody smaller that person could have been seriously injured.

Perhaps time to ban the scrum then. In fact while we at it let's just ban tackling too...

 

[sand_man]

@ Chris

, But no such mitigation was given by the judicial officer in the case of Burger, who was found guilty of 'making contact with the face in the eye area'.

Nothing left to say, that says it all. Burger made contact with the face in the eye area= guilty as charged of attempting to gouge out a players eye and suck out his brain matter through the now vacant eye socket... Burger=killer...

 

[Picard]

Perhaps time to ban the scrum then. In fact while we at it let's just ban tackling too...

You are over-reacting and you know it.

 

[killadoob]

Drama queen

 

[sand_man]

Bloody hell I prepared a bloody good retort, posted it but had a disconnection same time and now it's gone...