Second death confirmation rocks 2022 Comrades: 'Two deaths are two too many'

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Nerfherder said:

Q&A: COVID-19, Vaccines, and Myocarditis

Benefits of COVID-19 vaccines outweigh a very small risk of heart complications
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So you agree then? Covid 19 caused a major spike in myocarditis?
And you accept that the vaccines did nothing to prevent infection?
And that mRNA vaccines increased the risk of developing myocarditis?

Therefore the risk of developing myocarditis is higher still if you get Covid 19 after being vaccinated
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Your own infographic says so. The only way to avoid a higher risk is NOT to get Covid 19 and NOT get vaccinated.
 
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I'd like to know what the percentage of DNF's were compared to previous years.
This will tell you how well prepared the athletes were.
You have to do 18 x 5km runs in a row in under 35-40min each so no easy feat if you're going in undercooked.
 
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Nerfherder said:
There is no hope for you.

You discount all of science because this... how's your flat earth.
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Nope not all science. Just the manufactured "plandemic" hype train crap. As I said in another thread, Those who felt they didn't need the leaky vaccine, still don't need it. Yet people, such as yourself continue to preach how it was essential. At some stage you have to realise you were wrong... Own it and move on. The longer you sit on your high horse the more you look like you'd believe anything the MSM will feed you.
 
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William Foster said:
Nope not all science. Just the manufactured "plandemic" hype train crap. As I said in another thread, Those who felt they didn't need the leaky vaccine, still don't need it. Yet people, such as yourself continue to preach how it was essential. At some stage you have to realise you were wrong... Own it and move on. The longer you sit on your high horse the more you look like you'd believe anything the MSM will feed you.
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to the annoyance of many on this forum and to the benefit of myself, I am still alive after 2 years of not volunteering for the clotshot. If the virus was meant to kill an ignorant peasant like me who refuses to "follow the scienceTM" then it's a poor pathogen indeed.
 
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William Foster said:
Nope not all science. Just the manufactured "plandemic" hype train crap. As I said in another thread, Those who felt they didn't need the leaky vaccine, still don't need it. Yet people, such as yourself continue to preach how it was essential. At some stage you have to realise you were wrong... Own it and move on. The longer you sit on your high horse the more you look like you'd believe anything the MSM will feed you.
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You didn't need it coz we took it for you - we're the equivalent of people paying tax and your unvaxxinated ass is the unemployed collecting grants.

I think I need a fourth vaccine now, I shat out all my little robots and still am no closer to dying in the designated time frame
 
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Hellfest said:
You didn't need it coz we took it for you - we're the equivalent of people paying tax and your unvaxxinated ass is the unemployed collecting grants.

I think I need a fourth vaccine now, I shat out all my little robots and still am no closer to dying in the designated time frame
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Fat people owe skinny and fit people far more than the unvaccinated owes the vaccinated.
 
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Nicodeamus said:
to the annoyance of many on this forum and to the benefit of myself, I am still alive after 2 years of not volunteering for the clotshot. If the virus was meant to kill an ignorant peasant like me who refuses to "follow the scienceTM" then it's a poor pathogen indeed.
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Lol, you haven't got a cooking clue about the science. Dude, you avoided covid and/or death like billions of others and you somehow you think you are a success story cos you questioned the science? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 
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What utter nonsense.
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Really? You don't know anyone who did it, so it must not be true? And in case you're jumpting to the wrong conclusions here, I'm not implying someone getting off the couch, throw on some tekkies and go for an 89km jog. Let's not be silly. I can think of at least 6 people I've known over the years who went from, at best, 20 minute jogs on the treadmill in the gym, to finishing Comrates. All of them decided to do it after some life-changing event motivated them - one said she'd do it if she beat cancer (she did both), one did it after his fater was shot in a hijacking shortly before running his nth comrades, etc. All of them got onto a beginners programs, join groups/clubs/charities or whatever, started taking part in 5ks and 10ks and parkruns, etc, building up to it.

That doesn't change my comment. Going from not a runner to an ultra endurance event in a short space of time risk exposing hereto unknown medical issues, overcooking it in training (as beginners often do) can cause all sorts of problems. And remember, proper training programs don't have you running the race distance at any time before the race. Even Comrades' own training program tops out at at an optional 50-55km long run. I've never done Comrades or anything over a marathon, but I've one enough marathons to know that small mistakes early on - either in training or early on in the race - can result in things going very wrong very suddenly later on.
 
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Hellfest said:
You didn't need it coz we took it for you - we're the equivalent of people paying tax and your unvaxxinated ass is the unemployed collecting grants.

I think I need a fourth vaccine now, I shat out all my little robots and still am no closer to dying in the designated time frame
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Talk about delusional.
 
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koffiejunkie said:
Anyone know exactly what the cause of death was for either athelete? I know people get have issues with privacy, but when someone dies in a public endurance event, it seems pretty important that the public understand why. I know way too many couch potatoes who've decided that completing Comrades is a bucket list item even though they've never even done a 5k.
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Heart....It is always the heart. Over exhaustion.
 
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If covid or the vaccine have permanently damaged people's hearts then this should repeat every year. Only time will tell.
 
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Geoff.D said:
So you agree then? Covid 19 caused a major spike in myocarditis?
And you accept that the vaccines did nothing to prevent infection?
And that mRNA vaccines increased the risk of developing myocarditis?

Therefore the risk of developing myocarditis is higher still if you get Covid 19 after being vaccinated

Your own infographic says so. The only way to avoid a higher risk is NOT to get Covid 19 and NOT get vaccinated.
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Eish Geoff, still beating that drum.. Give it a rest already, go have a beer.
 
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A few points:

Sudden death during exercise has been a "thing" since before covid, their is no credible evidence of increased rates since covid or vaccines.

Athletes (even if optimally fit) while exercising have a higher rate of cardiovascular deaths than non athletes resting. The difference is the athlete at rest has a much lower incidence than the non athlete.

Cardiovascular deaths under 35 are usually due to an undiagnosed genetic risk. Most common is HCM (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy), ARVC, Brugada, Long QT syndromes, Marfans etc. In fact 1/300 carry one of these genes.
Cardiovascular deaths over 35 are usually due to atherosclerotic coronary artery disease and plaque rupture in response to elevated systolic pressures associated with exercise.

While myocarditis is frequently suggested as a cause of collapse it is rare, as someone with a myocarditis is unlikely to feel well enough to consider starting a ultra marathon.

For interest Killian Jornet won this years UTMB - ultra trail du Mont Blanc 170KM circling Mont Blanc with 10000+M elevation two days after testing +ve for Sars-CoV2

 
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