Self defence will not be a valid reason to own a gun in SA under a newly-revived draft law

Should "self defence" continue to be a valid reason for owning a firearm?

  • Yes

    Votes: 597 95.8%
  • No

    Votes: 26 4.2%

  • Total voters
    623

The_Librarian

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Oh, btw this is the same person whose response in this court case was , when justifying the refusal of a section 21 permit for self defence was to say ... do not put yourself in dangerous situations!
So the meaning is that I should emigrate to a safer country?

And what about our farmers and old people then?
 

mojoman

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Well, well, well....

Hi All I have posted four pages from a court case where the chairperson of the appeal advocate Lugwela Shandu signed a affidavit on oath where she denied on several occasions that she participated in a decision to refuse an appeal .
The document numbered 4 is part of the record filed in the court proceedings by her state attorney and you can clearly see that she signed the decision to refuse the appeal as chairperson of the appeal board.
I cannot think of a more blatant lie on oath and more importantly by an advocate of the High Court.
This is the person that sits as an appeal authority for decisions of the National Commissioner to refuse firearm licenses yet in cases involving the appeal board and the Natcom she signs papers on behalf of him and the appeal board where there is a clear conflict of interest . The conduct of the appeal board doing this was censored and criticised in the High Court decision of Black many years ago.
She is also the person that was instrumental in drafting the amendment bill to take away our firearms and the committee report that made fundamentally simple and stupid mistakes in interpreting research data commissioned by the secretariat of police, the same organisation she helped write the report for upon which the amendment bill was based.
Be very afraid when a person who can influence your firearm rights is dishonest, , dogmatically opposed to firearm ownership and who does do not understand basic constitutional and legal principles.
Oh, btw this is the same person whose response in this court case was , when justifying the refusal of a section 21 permit for self defence was to say ... do not put yourself in dangerous situations! Martin Hood.
Here is one who was born to simply lie....
 

Lupus

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So you can't shoot someone invading your home and inform the police? This is SA how many bodies are found and how many actually lead to arrests. Just saying, some black bags, bleach and well pretty much anywhere at night.
 

mojoman

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So you can't shoot someone invading your home and inform the police? This is SA how many bodies are found and how many actually lead to arrests. Just saying, some black bags, bleach and well pretty much anywhere at night.
Lol...Informing the police seems to be the wrong thing to do here...
Shoot
Shovel
Silence
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Oh, btw this is the same person whose response in this court case was , when justifying the refusal of a section 21 permit for self defence was to say ... do not put yourself in dangerous situations! Martin Hood.

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