Semigration is creating a hidden tax problem in South Africa

gregmcc

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To save anyoneone else from googling it:

semigration, defined as the act or process in which professionals, individuals or families decide to move to different, more affordable parts of the country or back to their native homes.
 

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To save anyoneone else from googling it:

semigration, defined as the act or process in which professionals, individuals or families decide to move to different, more affordable parts of the country or back to their native homes.
I think the definition for SA is different. People tend to move to safer and better managed areas, especially the economic active income tax paying types.
 

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I think the definition for SA is different. People tend to move to safer and better managed areas, especially the economic active income tax paying types.
Agree.
I've noticed a few years back, quite a few colleagues moving from the city/suburbs to more rural towns even though it meant a longer commute for them.

Quized on this the answer I usually got was: quality of life.
 

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Close municipalities down. Change the laws. Let private companies run cities.
In any other country that might be a good idea but in SA?

Only cadre's would end up owning these companies and then you would end up being charged 15x the normal price of electricity, refuse would never be collected and water would be undrinkable.

Be careful what you wish for!
 

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Only cadre's would end up owning these companies and then you would end up being charged 15x the normal price of electricity, refuse would never be collected and water would be undrinkable.

This is already the reality for a lot of people living in dysfunctional municipalities.
 
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rvZA

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In any other country that might be a good idea but in SA?

Only cadre's would end up owning these companies and then you would end up being charged 15x the normal price of electricity, refuse would never be collected and water would be undrinkable.

Be careful what you wish for!

No, look you are right, but it will not be cadres. It will come down to the taxpayer and those paying for water and lights to decide who does the work. This is why home owner associations are needed. They are normally the groups, like in Brits, who decide who the companies are that does the work. This is where you shun the cadres, BEE and AA to get things working again. Municipalities are not needed at all.
 
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No, look you are right, but it will not be cadres. It will come down to the taxpayer and those paying for water and lights to decide who does the work. This is why home owner associations are needed. They are normally the groups, like in Brits, who decide who the companies are that does the work. This is where you shun the cadres, BEE and AA to get things working again. Municipalities are not needed at all.

And then you create a separatist state.. it’s a slippery hill you climbing especially most of your ilk paint everyone else with the same brush.

For electricity, with the 100MW provision allowance I’m sure estates might be able to provision their own electricity particularly in Gauteng where things seem more organized(estates that is) but then the number of decently run body corps I’ve encountered are few and far between and this would be capital intensive or require longer term budget planning skills.

In Jhb my fav estate was well managed and handled contractors and private companies for many of the services it could outsource but levies were not cheap either.

But that was an exception.. other estates were costly and service delivered not great. It’s not unusual to hear of horror stories when people dig into body corp financial statements so yah.. mileage may vary.
 
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