Sending people to Mars...

[DrJohnZoidberg]

The only way you can do that is to warp space-time fabric. The earth itself barely warps the fabric, earth's gravity is due mainly to the roation on the axis. Only things like the sun warp space time significantly. A man made craft isnt going to be able to do this. Secondly our knowledge of gravity stops at the theorized graviton, even if correct then could create gravity my manipulating those sub atomic particle however then ship is going to need a particle accelerator. I say just make the ship a cyclinder and the crew cabin like a gyroscope type thing and let it spin

I wonder if that would work though? :/

Something like this: http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/

All the initial prep has been done, we just need to get 1 trillion dollars somewhere

 

[RiaX]

okay but we need anti-matter fuel :O the handron collider only works like once every 2 years rofl

 

[Crusader]

The only way you can do that is to warp space-time fabric. The earth itself barely warps the fabric, earth's gravity is due mainly to the roation on the axis.

That's incorrect. Earth rotation doesn't create gravity. In fact it has only a small impact, making things slightly heavier depending on position on Earth.
See here

 

[Sensorei]

That's incorrect. Earth rotation doesn't create gravity. In fact it has only a small impact, making things slightly heavier depending on position on Earth.
See here

Exactly, any object's gravity is proportional to it's mass. As far as science is (currently) concerned gravity can not exist without mass.

Yes artificial gravity can be created using centrafugal force by spinning something, but that is not gravity.

 

[Celine]

what an absolute waste of time and money on sending people to both moon and mars. there is no life form on either of these places. there is absolutely nothing on these places that is of any value to us here on earth. this is money spent on WHAT? money that could be spent on other resources such as sustaining life here on earth.

 

[Crusader]

what an absolute waste of time and money on sending people to both moon and mars. there is no life form on either of these places. there is absolutely nothing on these places that is of any value to us here on earth. this is money spent on WHAT? money that could be spent on other resources such as sustaining life here on earth.

This is money spent on innovation, on finding knowledge, on expanding our horizons and on creating technology which might be needed in the future. That little bank bail-out the US did due to stupid banks giving credit where it shouldn't cost more than the ENTIRE NASA budget for it's ENTIRE existence. Heck, the Olympics costs multiple times what Curiosity cost. Curiosity was cheap.

The whole point of the mission is to find out if forms of life could've existed/is currently existing on Mars. I don't know what you are basing your assertion of 'no life form on either these place' on, since that question is still very much open.

As for no value for us here on Earth? Putting aside the technology spin-offs humanity WILL need to expand to other planets at some stage. You know that adage of 'all your eggs in one basket', all it would take is one large asteroid impact and the entire human race on Earth could be wiped out. (Incidentally the knowledge and tech created through missions like these might be just what could save us all in the future).

 

[chrisc]

We must stop looking at this with 2012 technology. Wait a bit until 2040 and inventions may offer solutions to these problems

 

[RiaX]

That's incorrect. Earth rotation doesn't create gravity. In fact it has only a small impact, making things slightly heavier depending on position on Earth.
See here

Lol thanks for that one ... but my point still remains we wont be able to have a craft large enough to provide us with the correct gravity.

Its not money not well spent. This type of mission will require new technology, new medicines greater understanding of human biology in space, improved rocket and propulsion designs, greater understanding of physics. How is this a waste of money?

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

what an absolute waste of time and money on sending people to both moon and mars. there is no life form on either of these places. there is absolutely nothing on these places that is of any value to us here on earth. this is money spent on WHAT? money that could be spent on other resources such as sustaining life here on earth.

I think Carl Sagan just rolled in his grave.

 

[Unhappy438]

what an absolute waste of time and money on sending people to both moon and mars. there is no life form on either of these places. there is absolutely nothing on these places that is of any value to us here on earth. this is money spent on WHAT? money that could be spent on other resources such as sustaining life here on earth.

Oh no :erm:

Please watch

[video=youtube;CbIZU8cQWXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIZU8cQWXc[/video]

 

[Celine]

oh dear god............so many of you watching space odyssey 2062 or whatever number you want to watch. the US of A have spent so much money on this mars escapade.

no matter how you look at it, man cannot change the atmosphere outside of the earth's atmosphere. one cannot live beyond the earth's atmosphere without bouncing around like a floating ball of nothingness. man cannot change the moon, mars, pluto or that of zogg even. when are you people going to live become earth bound and live like earthlings and not think like morons that there are other galaxies. when that happens then money will be well spent on worthwhile things here on earth.

this assumption that man is expanding his knowledge and horizons and innovations is a load of codswallop. lets use the money to invent things that can be used here on EARTH.

and quite frankly i don't care who is rolling in his grave. elvis presley and freddy mercury would to if they heard the people destroying their songs here on god's green earth. at least they contributed to REALITY.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

oh dear god............so many of you watching space odyssey 2062 or whatever number you want to watch. the US of A have spent so much money on this mars escapade.

no matter how you look at it, man cannot change the atmosphere outside of the earth's atmosphere. one cannot live beyond the earth's atmosphere without bouncing around like a floating ball of nothingness. man cannot change the moon, mars, pluto or that of zogg even. when are you people going to live become earth bound and live like earthlings and not think like morons that there are other galaxies. when that happens then money will be well spent on worthwhile things here on earth.

this assumption that man is expanding his knowledge and horizons and innovations is a load of codswallop. lets use the money to invent things that can be used here on EARTH.

and quite frankly i don't care who is rolling in his grave. elvis presley and freddy mercury would to if they heard the people destroying their songs here on god's green earth. at least they contributed to REALITY.

This is an extremely short sighted point of view, if people weren't pushing boundaries we most likely would still be sitting in a cave somewhere trying to figure out how to make a hand axe.

By pushing boundaries, new discoveries are made that benefit everybody. Discoveries on Mars could lead to developments that one day save our planet, I'm sure people will be thinking how badly the money was spent then.

 

[Unhappy438]

oh dear god............so many of you watching space odyssey 2062 or whatever number you want to watch. the US of A have spent so much money on this mars escapade.

Hardly, the USA military budget per year is about 720 billion dollars , Nasa is about 18.5 billion. If you want extra money for earth why are you picking on the little guy?

no matter how you look at it, man cannot change the atmosphere outside of the earth's atmosphere. one cannot live beyond the earth's atmosphere without bouncing around like a floating ball of nothingness. man cannot change the moon, mars, pluto or that of zogg even.

Interesting , do you have Scientific evidence to prove that terraforming another planet is 100% impossible or are you just making schit up? I would suspect the latter considering you don't know the difference between atmosphere and gravity.

when are you people going to live become earth bound and live like earthlings and not think like morons that there are other galaxies. when that happens then money will be well spent on worthwhile things here on earth.

Wait ... Are you trying to say there aren't other galaxies?

this assumption that man is expanding his knowledge and horizons and innovations is a load of codswallop. lets use the money to invent things that can be used here on EARTH.

Um its called Nasa spin offs , most of the stuff thats invented for space is used on EARTH also. Follow this link if you dont believe me, http://spinoff.nasa.gov/ . You see what i did there, i backed up my statement with evidence :erm: .

 

[KleinBoontjie]

Put my name up for a one way trip ticket, thanks.

Hope it's gonna look like Doom 3....kewl.

 

[RiaX]

oh dear god............<snip>

please enlighten us posting here what should the money be used for?

If you think space travel is a waste of time then something is very wrong with you as you cannot see past your own lifespan. The earth will not spin forever, and if humanity is to survive through time (not saying that it will but IF) it must conquer the stars. One big mistake technology increases at a big pace from missions like this because novel technologies must be created to tackle this problem conventional technologies will not suffice. War and big science projects push the pace at which we evolve technologically.

That GPS system you use to find out where you going, the signal your cellphone works on, the internet, the fact that you can fly around the world at a relatively quick pace, what you think made these technologies possible?
You claim its a waste of money and time yet you use the luxurious spoils that they yeild. Oh I forgot how do you think a microwave was invented?

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

If humanity is going to stop exploring the unknown you may as well shoot me now.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

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[KleinBoontjie]

oh dear god............so many of you watching space odyssey 2062 or whatever number you want to watch. the US of A have spent so much money on this mars escapade.

no matter how you look at it, man cannot change the atmosphere outside of the earth's atmosphere. one cannot live beyond the earth's atmosphere without bouncing around like a floating ball of nothingness. man cannot change the moon, mars, pluto or that of zogg even. when are you people going to live become earth bound and live like earthlings and not think like morons that there are other galaxies. when that happens then money will be well spent on worthwhile things here on earth.

this assumption that man is expanding his knowledge and horizons and innovations is a load of codswallop. lets use the money to invent things that can be used here on EARTH.

and quite frankly i don't care who is rolling in his grave. elvis presley and freddy mercury would to if they heard the people destroying their songs here on god's green earth. at least they contributed to REALITY.

OMG, you sound like the Catholic people who oppose Columbus back in 1492. Back then they believed the earth was flat and that it was foolish to persue life beyond the end of the earth. I'm guessing that you're no expert, but wasn't it for Columbus or Dias a lot would've been different today.

I think it's possible to colonise other planets, even if they have to build a "Bio-dome" to accomplish it.

 

[RiaX]

You would have to build a bio-dome type thing. Mankind is evolved to live on earth and our evolution is a slow progress that can accelerate to adapt but it will take a length period of time. Since we have evolved on earth, we can only live on earth therefore a settlement outside of earth must be encased within a synthetic area that would mimic earth

 

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