Sentech National W-DSL Launch 1/12/03 !

guztro · Nov 5, 2003

Hi All

Just a note for Cerberus...I realize that you are not in a position to divulge any final pricing on the Sentech products and that's why I also ranged the pricing in my post to reflect the averages the service may cost I also have the final pricing with me, but cannot part with it at this stage). Thanks for clarifying the various products that will be offered.

Cerbertus, do you know if this service will run on 2.6Ghz? If so, I cannot see us paying less than R3200.00 for the equipment.

For the rest of you guys...The information by nocomms in his post is 100% accurate.

NB:I think with all this discussion about Telkom and Sentech going on it will be very important for Sentech to deliver...I think they know that by now.[

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Cheers!!
Guz

Cerberus · Nov 5, 2003

The Technology they are using is the same as 3G technology or your cellphones so yes the range is from 2.4ghz-2.6ghz as for the price on the equipment I think it'll be around 2800-3000

a little more exspensive than ADSL but I think they are also working on ways for people to get around this. I also heard that they will have 2mb/s shared for 50:1 ration so the minimum you will EVER get is 40kb/s which apparently is better than the current speeds you guys have been getting ADSL line(read on the other post section of this forum)

nocomms · Nov 5, 2003

Cerberus is also correct, the technology is 3G and will be on the 2,6ghz. Equipment pricing has not been finalised but hopefully should be sub R3000. A possible rental/lease might be in the making.

Sliver · Nov 5, 2003

The JHB region is rather large, can you be anymore specific on what suburbs will be covered ?

Sparf · Nov 5, 2003

i love playing games on the net, what do you think the latency to europe or usa would be about (ping time) in ms?

Andre · Nov 5, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sparf
 i love playing games on the net, what do you think the latency to europe or usa would be about (ping time) in ms?
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Here's some math homework for you. Assuming the satellites that they use are in geosynchronous orbit (35800km above the earth) and the speed of light is about 300000km/s, what is the minimum latency you can expect? Remember to count the time for the signal to go to and from the satellite.

jgoosen · Nov 5, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Andre
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sparf
 i love playing games on the net, what do you think the latency to europe or usa would be about (ping time) in ms?
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Here's some math homework for you. Assuming the satellites that they use are in geosynchronous orbit (35800km above the earth) and the speed of light is about 300000km/s, what is the minimum latency you can expect? Remember to count the time for the signal to go to and from the satellite.
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Sattellite connection runs around about 780ms

Andre · Nov 5, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jgoosen
Sattellite connection runs around about 780ms
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Ja, international latency is going to suck. How is data going to be moved around the country I wonder.

Nickste · Nov 5, 2003

I don't think Sentech's wireless broadband solution is going to be one aimed at hardcore gamers who want to game overseas.

However l33t their equipment is, they are going through satellite, etc. It will have a ping that won't "do it" for the counter-strike type games out there.

Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
adsl@nicksmit.za.net

Cloud · Nov 5, 2003

Hi

seems u guys know a lot about the roll-out of sentech's wireless broadband in the regions mentioned.

can someone please tell me what type of equipment i would need to get. i live in Durbanville, roughly 10km's from Tygerberg hill.

thnx

Sparf · Nov 5, 2003

so the best is just under 300. which all dandy on paper. but i was kinda curious not in the math but in the actual latency. kinda like some people are more interested in the springbok's results not just their possibilities. ;-)

so if geosynch orbit is so far up. maybe i need to move to the top of mt k or something to get closer.

ProAsm · Nov 5, 2003

Pings locally (around SA) should be in the region 40 to 60.
International pings will be 600+ as it goes via satellite.

Cerberus · Nov 5, 2003

okay I think I covered the ping times earlier but for a refresher here goes the local pings will be super fast(adsl/direct isdn dial) becuase as far as I know they'll be using the IS backbone which is mmm.. fast if you get onto it. But as soon as you hit international sites (except maybe Europe since they might have a connection to melasia hower it is spelt which would be around 200-300 ping I'm guessing) then your ping will be high becuase your bounced off a satellite and that means high 700's to even 1 second so if you want to game on international sites I don't think that this package is for you(in the US anyway) but local is going to rock with 24/7 connection as well as excellent bandwidth to international d/l since your routed through a satellite which only is used for tv and data transfer and no wire to worry about(I checked out their 512/50 package OMG!)

Thats in a Nutshell

Regards
Cerberus

Andre · Nov 5, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sparf
 so the best is just under 300. which all dandy on paper.
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Remember that the sats are not going to be right overhead, so the distance increases and the destination for your foreign packets somewhere in the northern hemisphere inceases the distance as well.

Then add in latency from the various routers in between you and the server you want to connect to.

Cerberus · Nov 5, 2003

Andre you also have to take into account that yes it might take 300ms to get there but the signal has to get back to hence 600+

just thought I'd point that out

Regards
Cerberus

Andre · Nov 5, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cerberus
 okay I think I covered the ping times earlier but for a refresher here goes the local pings will be super fast(adsl/direct isdn dial) becuase as far as I know they'll be using the IS backbone which is mmm.. fast if you get onto it.
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Man, I hate to be a naysayer, but we used ISDN at IS for about 5 years and the speed during afternoons was bloody awful. Things would grind to a complete standstil. You could barely open local sites, let alone international.

Telkom's DSL is at least usable during the afternoon.

This was in Cape Town by the way. I've no idea what it's like in the rest of the country.

Cerberus · Nov 5, 2003

mmm.. ISDN isn't connected DIRECTLY onto the backbone even if you sign up with them,isdn users only get the bandwidth assigned to IS clients but if you BUY bandwidth i.e say 20mb/s then you are garanteed that on the line unlike ISDN which is theoretical top of64/128kb but depending on how much of THEIR pipeline is being used but I could be wrong

datawizard · Nov 5, 2003

Why would our speeds be affected by a pipe between Europe and Malasia. As far as i know there's a pipe between Malasia and US. Sorry if i'm being dense here but ?????

firestorm · Nov 5, 2003

Cloud,
I am in Kenridge, Durbanville and have been told that it will be covered. This includes Tygerberg Hills and Durbanville.

The equipment will be definetly more expensive than the ADSL equipment, but for what you get over the long run it is definetly worth it. The prices being thrown around is correct in that it will be in the region of R3K.

With some of the myadsl members being part of Sentech, they know that they have to deliver. Let us hope that they do. The people in JHB will inform us as they will get it before us :-(.

I just hope that I will be kept on the list for the roll out in CT [8D]

Cloud · Nov 6, 2003

thanx firestorm

so, i live in Vygeboom, which is halfway between Stellenberg and Durbanville, will i be able to get the signal without purchasing an antenna or a booster?

and btw, are u on some list already? where do i sign up!

--->its Malaysia guys[

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