Series [Please do NOT post any spoilers] - Episode V

cerebus

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The writer and producer claim the series will 'challenge all the conventions of who we think Anne Boleyn was'

What conventions are being challenged by portraying an historical icon, who was decidedly fair skinned and a native of the island, as a black-skinned woman, very few, if any, of which were ever seen in England at the time. ?

You can take for example Churchill, and portray him as a racist bully instead of a heroic war time Prime Minister, or closer to home, portray Mandela as a ruthless terrorist instead of the usual benevolent messiah - there is more than one side to any famous/notorious figure.

But I find the concept of a black Anne Boleyn just as implausible as a white Madiba, and frankly it just reeks of 'oh look at us, we are so out there and woke'. :sick:


It's not a comedy, it's not a parody - Ann Boleyn was white, not a black feminist.

The sad thing is thousands of British TV watchers, and millions of American viewers will go forth sprouting 'wow, I didn't know Anne Boleyn was black'.

If it was a Twitter or Facebook post it would come with a Fake News rubber stamp.

I could suggest a few possibilities:
1) They are drawing parallels between Anne Boleyn’s experiences and those of a black woman, that will be clear in the series
2) Her performance is simply so good that the issue of her race is moot
3) The show is bad and the casting feels weird throughout.

I don’t know what will be until it’s ready. I do know that they’ve managed to garner 10x more press by this decision than if they’d gone with Tilda Swinton.

In the meantime you can always occupy yourself with Anthony Hopkins’ masterful shoe-polished performance as Othello.
 

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The writer and producer claim the series will 'challenge all the conventions of who we think Anne Boleyn was'

What conventions are being challenged by portraying an historical icon, who was decidedly fair skinned and a native of the island, as a black-skinned woman, very few, if any, of which were ever seen in England at the time. ?

You can take for example Churchill, and portray him as a racist bully instead of a heroic war time Prime Minister, or closer to home, portray Mandela as a ruthless terrorist instead of the usual benevolent messiah - there is more than one side to any famous/notorious figure.

But I find the concept of a black Anne Boleyn just as implausible as a white Madiba, and frankly it just reeks of 'oh look at us, we are so out there and woke'. :sick:


It's not a comedy, it's not a parody - Ann Boleyn was white, not a black feminist.

The sad thing is thousands of British TV watchers, and millions of American viewers will go forth sprouting 'wow, I didn't know Anne Boleyn was black'.

If it was a Twitter or Facebook post it would come with a Fake News rubber stamp.
It's Channel 5, who the f*** takes them seriously?
 

daveza

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In the meantime you can always occupy yourself with Anthony Hopkins’ masterful shoe-polished performance as Othello.


Dear me, don't get me started on the Moor - specifically Verdi's Moor.


Not in this forum anyway.
 

daveza

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Ps: And to add insult to injury, I will have to miss a rare sighting of the scrumptious Amanda Burton.
 

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There is one major difference between the past use of white actors to portray non-whites and current use of non-whites to portray whites...... they darkened the skins of the whites to make them look the part though half the time it just looked.... odd.

No one is painting blacks white because they are filling the roles of historical whites.
 

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Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge are uniting for an Amazon series, Mr.& Mrs. Smith. The Atlanta star teased the series, coming to Amazon in 2022, on his Instagram story Friday.

Two extremely talented people...will keep an eye on this one indeed.
 

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There's a new series about Anne Boleyn on the way......

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Next up a new series about Malcolm X with Brad Pitt in the lead role.
I dont have a problem - it's an artistic choice and most of the story will be fictional anyway save for some important details and themes.
White Boleyn has been done to death so will be interesting how they tackle it.

How about a Chinese Joan of Ark.
 

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Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller-Bridge are uniting for an Amazon series, Mr.& Mrs. Smith. The Atlanta star teased the series, coming to Amazon in 2022, on his Instagram story Friday.

That new season of Atlanta better be out before this is released. It's been too long.
 

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Resident Alien is such a let-down.
Could have been great, but they ruined it with the forced humour - klopmk@k
 

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It's wrong, you can't just change history and call it artistic licence.


If we continue with this 'çhallenging conventions' wokeness, next we'll be asked to accept a Chinese female who identifies as male playing Napoleon !
I'm curious why you think any of the decisions made by the production are "changing history"? It's a TV show, not a documentary purporting to be historically accurate. By that reasoning, using any words Anne Boleyn didn't actually use or having her wear clothing she didn't actually wear would be "changing history".

Do you think the dialects/grammar for these types of TV shows/movies are ever really historically accurate?
 

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