Shack dwellers want a share of toilet building tender

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A group of shack dwellers from Area 11 in Gunguluza, Uitenhage intend to submit tenders on several multi-million rand projects in the community.

Area 11 is part of Uitenhage’s largest informal settlement, with over 3,000 shacks.

Late on Monday, nearly 200 shack dwellers gathered on R Alexander Street where 12 people were introduced as a new community business forum by Area 11 committee chairman Luyanda Manyamu. It was explained that the members of the forum all have previous work experience as electricians, plumbing and road works.

There are currently three business forums in the community who expect to bid for contracts as sub-contractors to build informal houses, toilets and paving or roads.

Resident Luvuyo Ntombana is one of the 12 members of the new forum. He told the crowd: “Nothing about shack dwellers without involving shack dwellers, especially in business. We intend to take part as sub-contractors in all tenders because we have registered companies. We seek to create jobs, build homes by ourselves, plough back to the community. Other people who have been doing business here never ploughed back and have no intentions to do so.”

More at: https://www.groundup.org.za/article...-multi-million-rand-projects-their-community/
 

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Well these shackdweller probably spend some time on construction sites in the past. They should be 1000 times more qualified to build some toilets than the ANC cadre that will eventually get the tender and run away with the money twice. Without doing any work.
 

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Well these shackdweller probably spend some time on construction sites in the past. They should be 1000 times more qualified to build some toilets than the ANC cadre that will eventually get the tender and run away with the money twice. Without doing any work.
That could work. I still think they should have someone appointed to manage them to ensure they don't also do a runner. Though that is mainly a function of corrupt collusion as no one should be paid until an engineer or something has inspected and checked out the work at the agreed payment schedules. Cadres just have their corrupt insiders sign off or some higher up instructs officials to pay his buddies.
 
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That could work. I still think they should have someone appointed to manage them to ensure they don't also do a runner. Though that is mainly a function of corrupt collusion as no one should be paid until an engineer or something has inspected and checked out the work at the agreed payment schedules. Cadres just have their corrupt insiders sign off or some higher up instructs officials to pay his buddies.
I suspect that it is toilets/houses/whatever is in their own area? If they do a runner they just don't get the infrastructure. Their choice, toilets or one nice party weekend and a few polos for the ring leaders.

But yes having like a project manager of a independent company do a bit of a project plan and budget will certainly help.
 

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Its the construction Mafia. They are huge and organised.
 

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I think there should be a bounty system. You apply to build a few rdp's get your own loans then get paid out for each completed unit that passes inspection. Communities can club together lime they do with stokvel.
 

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Doesn't sound like too bad an idea, honestly these communities are ruthless when it comes to people conning them, if they squander the tender and don't provide toilets the community will deal with them, as long as the government sticks to their guns and don't hand out any more money. Some checks and balances would have to be put in place, maybe pay them per toilet they complete and is up to code.

Also by the sound of things they are qualified to do the actual work unlike whats happening with current tenders where they cheap out on labor and material costs.
 

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Who is getting contracts to build informal houses?

Well in eThekwini one Ms Mpisane has picked up many hundreds of millions from the municipality building corrugated iron and treated pole hostels as "emergency housing". SARS is onto her; again. We wait with bated breath....................
 

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Doesn't sound like too bad an idea, honestly these communities are ruthless when it comes to people conning them, if they squander the tender and don't provide toilets the community will deal with them, as long as the government sticks to their guns and don't hand out any more money. Some checks and balances would have to be put in place, maybe pay them per toilet they complete and is up to code.

Also by the sound of things they are qualified to do the actual work unlike whats happening with current tenders where they cheap out on labor and material costs.
I agree that if they don't perform they should wallow in their own sheite, but TIA, we've seen this lot squander or burn then take back to the streets to demand a fix from .gov.
 

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I'm guessing they'll also be first in line to submit tenders for the maintenance & reconstruction of said toilets once they are damaged/destroyed.
 

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Doesn't sound like too bad an idea, honestly these communities are ruthless when it comes to people conning them, if they squander the tender and don't provide toilets the community will deal with them, as long as the government sticks to their guns and don't hand out any more money. Some checks and balances would have to be put in place, maybe pay them per toilet they complete and is up to code.

Also by the sound of things they are qualified to do the actual work unlike whats happening with current tenders where they cheap out on labor and material costs.
I agree, maybe if they build things themselves they will be less inclined to destroy it and look after it...
 

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Its a good idea provided everything adheres to building code and is signed off after inspection.
Unfortunately for them they are confused about BBEE(add the obligatory B's and E's depending on what it is now) its not designed to empower poor black people, its designed to make the rich connected cadres a lot more money.
 

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Without knowing the reality on the ground, this in theory is generally a good idea. Involving the local community in building out their own infrastructure is a good thing.

The reality on the ground is that this is just another "nice" way of covering up for the Mafia type systems that these forums are. Whoever gets the contracts will be unable to do any work without involving these forums because they will disrupt work sites and threaten workers and management...
 

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Well these shackdweller probably spend some time on construction sites in the past. They should be 1000 times more qualified to build some toilets than the ANC cadre that will eventually get the tender and run away with the money twice. Without doing any work.

And what makes it better is the tender quotes - R600 toilet from Builders. Compared to MR/MRs ANC - R12 000 a toliet from zondo inc
 
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