Ships are starting to bypass SA ports as Transnet tells customers and staff of ‘sabotage’

NarrowBandFtw

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I have a lot of time for RW but I reckon this IMF bail out is cloud cuckoo land. First the ANC have taken IMF loans and squandered them (Covid relief) and there's the Zim precedent where they took a loan and then told the IMF to go and f^&k themselves.
the IMF doesn't particularly care about ever getting the money it lends out back, they have a bottomless supply after all

they also don't really care about countries defaulting and then asking for more, Argentina has done that multiple times and still gets loans

and the IMF certainly does not care about "helping" other countries, it only cares about what leverage / control it can acquire with these loans
 

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vote ANC, give them another chance,
in 27 years what can they say they have done,? ruin a functioning country with their incompetence.

no sympathy anymore, just laughter at how backwards and stupid they are.
buying BMWs with tax payer money and stealing money to stash overseas.
 

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Walvis Bay booming after major Chinese upgrade..... Sadc using the Trans Kalahari...
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They have a rail link into the Harbour. Narrow Gauge? Sjoe place is booming. Chinese are moving in. Looks like Place been operational since 2018. not much happening until August 2019. Seems Covid brought a massive boom, perhaps linked to us closing our borders. Must be more efficent to get into Botswana? Does stuff going to Zambia come through here too?
 
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They have a rail link into the Harbour. Narrow Gauge? Sjoe place is booming. Chinese are moving in. Looks like Place been operational since 2018. not much happening until August 2019. Seems Covid brought a massive boom, perhaps linked to us closing our borders. Must be more efficent to get into Botswana? Does stuff going to Zambia come through here too?

Yep! Botswana, Zim and Zambia have started to use Walvis Bay. Botswana at one stage wanted Luderitz harbour to be developed so they could export coal through here. South African Managanese from the NCape is exported here currently.

The chinese also build a double lane freeway behind the dunes between Walvis and Swakopmund so that heavy trucks can stop using the smaller coastal road..

Whilst SA fiddles away........
 

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At least Transnet Pipelines, Freight Rail, and the Bulk side of Ports are all operating. Yes there is an issue with EDI right now, but they have rolled back to backup systems.
 

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@Mortymoose - what's up with Lüderitz(bucht) these days? There was a big hoo-haa in the Siener prophecies about Lüderitz featuring prominently at some point in the future.

Interesting to note that the Chinese is doing the western coast of Africa a service by improving infra that side in Walvis Bay. Why not in Angola?
 

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Yet the Maersk crew did exactly that while Maersk was crippled by NotPetya.

I think Transnet will not rise to that challenge, they'll rather admit defeat and blame somebody else conveniently.

Oh, by the way, Maersk combined is larger than the port of Durban, and more complex.
Ok. Firstly, its not just durban, its all the ports. The system in question has to interface with those of all the shipping companies with whom transnet deals ie its not a matter of size, its a matter of complexity. They are currently working manually but of course this is very very time consuming.

For a whole host of reasons, the shipping industry has currently a low tolerance for delays and stops sheduled for a few discharges or loads are currently being abandoned so some imports are not being landed and some exports are not being collected. If our trade was export heavy this would soon manifest itself in the container park filled to overflow. As it stands now lets wait and see, but these anomolies complicate the matter further.

As to rising to the challenge. It remains to be seen how this happened. damage seems to be across systems that ought not be connected, unless some departments are "blaming covid" now.

AP Moller Maersk is a profit driven multi national with an annual turnover that probably rivals our GDP. Its an unfair comparison. also,
Transnet occupies a difficult position in that it is both player and referee in a game with very high stakes and cutthroat margins. If it was a private profit driven enterprise it would also be the most sued entity in the country.
 

Bonywasawarrioraway

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complex is one thing ... is it connected to the internet however?

cyber attack implies it's connected
Absolutely.

The largest container port in south africa is actually in Gauteng. They are all connected. The conatainer ship no longer knows which containers they are dischargeing in a port for instance. It is the terminal that knows, advised by the shipping companies via.... you guessed it.
 

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Bypass SA ports and go where exactly if the goods are destined for SA?
The goods simply stay on the ship. Its is very rare that a ship calls here and discharges ALL its containers. Mostly a ship with say ten thousand containers onboard may stop and discharge say 2000 containers, load 1500 others and depart. Think of them like a bus travelling a circular route. As they go the load a few and land a few. Goods onboard destined for here will simply stay onboard until they can make another plan, or, until the next circuit.
 

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This has caused major problems with our shipments of equipment we get from overseas.
Our stock was supposed to be in JHB on the 18th July but the ship was diverted to PE or whatever they call that throat disease place :ROFL: .
Due to covid,the rioting and looting in Durban they could not dock there.:mad:
Our equipment was ordered six months ago and we now sit with a load of very unhappy clients.
Thank youTransnet for f..g up,bunch if cnts.
 
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