Shots fired, journalists assaulted, as protest outside farm murder court case turns violent

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dualmeister

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Was going to ask if the health minister spoke out about the lack of social distancing and no masks by the majority of EFF members, but well .... yah :rolleyes:
 
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Told ya so...






This trial is gonna be another fsckup as happens with these politically charged cases, watch this space...

Shame, think of all the times thechamp defended the first judge... :ROFL:
 

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Lol, after watching that ''march'' I don't think the MK is of concern. They look like they are all suffering with arthritis.

Remember at their peak as young men they got the snot bashed out of them when they tried to engage the SADF, resorting to attacking civilians and soft targets. Now I understand that the SANDF is a shadow of what the SADF was, but again, crippled old dudes larping as soldiers will probably still get the snot beaten out of them.

The real concern are the unemployed and unemployable youth. They are the ones being radicalised by the ANCYL and the EFF. 26-years of ANC failure has created a literal army of young angry people that are easily manipulated and they are being manipulated.

You take a look at what is going on in the US right now. The carnage is being caused by young people.
No the carnage in US is caused by Antifa. Anti fascist. They decide who is fascist and who is not. They decide who supports their causes or not. The attack bystanders based on who they decide deserves to be attacked. This includes innocent bystanders.

What you missed with the recent marches as that unemployed youth joined the MK marches. You said carnage is caused by the youth but the youth latch onto those surrounding them.

The youth marched with the MK recently

Link: Unemployed graduates join MKMVA march in KZN - SABC News


Look at the example you mentioned of the riots in the US. It's not Black people but white people who are rioting. Yet they do it under the banner of BLM. Same thing happens in SA. Those protesting combine with disgruntled youth groups. This happened recently with MK march in Durban.
This happened with the EFF march in Senekal. People were brought in from local communities by the EFF. They were bussed in by people that have no idea what they were protesting for.

Just some examples of interviews in Senekal:



That is one of the farmer's grievances. Politicians incite people to violence. On their own the politician doesn't attack anyone. You can't label them as being harmless. They incite the youth when they go protesting.

The same applies to military veterans like MK who go marching. They are old but them marching and singing military songs incite the nearby youth.
 
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No the carnage in US is caused by Antifa. Anti fascist. They decide who is fascist and who is not. They decide who supports their causes or not. The attack bystanders based on who they decide deserves to be attacked. This includes innocent bystanders.

What you missed with the recent marches as that unemployed youth joined the MK marches. You said carnage is caused by the youth but the youth latch onto those surrounding them.

The youth marched with the MK recently

Link: Unemployed graduates join MKMVA march in KZN - SABC News




That is one of the farmer's grievances. Politicians incite people to violence. On their own the politician doesn't attack anyone. You can't label them as being harmless. They incite the youth when they go protesting.

The same applies to military veterans like MK who go marching. They are old but them marching and singing military songs incite the nearby youth.

I watched till 6:20. O my fck. These twats still on WMC... there is no hope for SA looking at these "voters".
 

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Eish the racist and corruption defendants are sed now shem
As I said the courts are controlled by your corrupt anc and eff criminals.
 

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Just two questions on all the white people who were told to leave the court room.
Was it Malema who chased them out or the criminal?
Since when can you be asked to leave a court room because you are white?
 

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Just two questions on all the white people who were told to leave the court room.
Was it Malema who chased them out or the criminal?
Since when can you be asked to leave a court room because you are white?

I think it was the prosecutor that asked people to leave?
 

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I see Andre Pienaar was granted bail today. Different judge, different assessment. In my personal opinion, the magistrate court in Senekal is spoiled. I would shift it to another court in the public interest. The case for common purpose is already above that of the magistrate.
 

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This is the problem with democracy. There should be an IQ/EQ minimum to be eligible to vote. Even better, imagine it was only the tax payers who were allowed to vote...

Why is that a problem? That is the whole purpose to democracy.

Imagine if ONLY the unemployed could vote, how fast would society be to sort out **** then :p
 

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Why is that a problem? That is the whole purpose to democracy.

Imagine if ONLY the unemployed could vote, how fast would society be to sort out **** then :p

It's mostly the unemployed/uneducated voting though, that's why we still have the ANC in power, it's easy to buy votes if you're poor and uneducated.
 

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It's mostly the unemployed/uneducated voting though, that's why we still have the ANC in power, it's easy to buy votes if you're poor and uneducated.
Logic would dictate that the unemployed and uneducated would be the one's prejudiced by the current regime and vote for change.. The tax paying middle class might be less inclined to gamble on a change of regime? Life is comparatively comfortable for the average tax payer.
 
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It's mostly the unemployed/uneducated voting though, that's why we still have the ANC in power, it's easy to buy votes if you're poor and uneducated.

Yes, but buying votes and uplifting a community to not be able to vote any more are two different things. If it turns into a war of bribes, at least the poor will benefit somehow.

Also, if any groups are discriminated against, they will earn voting power and have more of a say.

Imagine all these beggars at robots having the power to change the country, telling them to go vote will actually have an impact
 

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The police are being fingered by black and white farmers as well as other police members...



 
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SECOND SUSPECT IN SENEKAL COURT VIOLENCE CASE GRANTED BAIL
He's implicated in the rampage where the disgruntled group toppled and set a police van alight expressing outrage at the suspects who were arrested for killing farmer Brendin Horner.

SENEKAL - A second man arrested for public violence in the Senekal farmer’s protests has been released on bail.

Stephanus Johannes Fourie made a brief appearance in the Senekal Magistrates Court on Monday.

The court has found that it is in the interests of justice to grant him R15,000 bail.

At the same time, Andre Pienaar, the other accused to face similar charges, has also been granted R15,000 bail in the Bloemfontein High Court.

Fourie (33) stood in the dock for the first time today after spending the weekend behind bars.

#Senekal the second suspect to allegedly commit public violence during the protests by farmers earlier this month has appeared in the Senekal Magistrates court.

This state has not opposed bail. KM pic.twitter.com/t0uRoSBodG
EWN Reporter (@ewnreporter) October 19, 2020

He is facing charges of attempted murder and public violence and incitement to commit violence for the role he played in the violent protests outside the Senekal Magistrates Court earlier this month.

The State did not oppose bail but they prescribed an amount of R15,000 for bail, which his lawyer Wayne Gibbs told the court he could afford.

However, Magistrate Fundiswa Lufutu still required him to substantiate why he should be given bail.

Fourie told the court that he runs a towing company and if he is not released on bail his business will be adversely affected.

He also reassured the court that he was not a flight risk and he would attend court faithfully.
 

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Do you honestly think that a bunch of teenage boys carrying logs is in one camp for a week training camp is as big a threat as Mkonto Wesizwea who is trained in weapons and guerilla tactics ?

Mkonto Wesizwe is pro Zuma. What happens when the Hawks or the NPA charge Zuma or someone in the Zuma faction. What happens if the courts find them guilty?

Mkonto Wesizwe who wanted Ramaphosa arrested when he beat Zuma's ex wife to the ANC presidency

Mkonto Wesizwe that was marching against the current ANC leadership a mere 2 weeks ago.


Mkonto Wesizwe who were marching for Ace Magashule on a false rumour that he would be charged for corruption a mere week ago




But so many people don't cares since there are some 13 year old white boys who have a week survivalist training camp run by a racist old man. That is the real danger. If this survivalist camp exist there must be thousands more.

Tell me with a straight face what the real danger is to South Africa's democracy.

Let me guess, white military camps that must exist, but stay in hiding for 26 years just to cause terrorism one day.
As long as "someone" sees any white or light skin person doing something like that, it becomes newsworthy and causes them anxiety due to the legacy of Apartheid.

Lot of black people still believe that Apartheid might make a return, too blinded by fear to realize they're creating another type of Apartheid (exclusivity for blacks only) themselves. Lets see how long my comment lasts before eventually getting me in trouble for speaking through the truth pipe. :laugh:
 
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