Should state or organisations decide what we watch? - TopTV board

Is the ICASA vs. TopTV Playboy TV matter a principle issue?

  • Yes, it is a matter of principle

    Votes: 63 73.3%
  • No, it's really just about porn

    Votes: 23 26.7%

  • Total voters
    86

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The state have a responsibility to the kids in this country and thus have to ensure that a certain level of morals prevail. What whomever does on their PC via Internet and in the dark is their own problem.
Erm, this channel is not in the open, you have to subscribe to it and the decoder has parental controls. Way more secure than letting your kids use your computer.
 

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Erm, this channel is not in the open, you have to subscribe to it and the decoder has parental controls. Way more secure than letting your kids use your computer.
Whatever. I am not against it neither for it. My view is we do not need it so why have it.
 

Lycanthrope

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The state have a responsibility to the kids in this country and thus have to ensure that a certain level of morals prevail. What whomever does on their PC via Internet and in the dark is their own problem.
How does your logic exclude what adults do on their televisions, in the privacy of their homes with parental control or the notable lack of children? Needless to say that's far more "child-proof" than any internet connection or cellular phone or poor bloke on the street who'd buy a porn mag for a fiver.

Regardless, I'm tired of this debate. It all boils down to an unhealthy obsession that certain people have with what OTHER people do in THEIR lives.

State should be protecting individual rights and freedoms.

Whatever. I am not against it neither for it. My view is we do not need it so why have it.
Nor do you need your car, your bed, computer, television, cellphone or 90% of your wardrobe. Yet you have it. Just because you don't WANT it, doesn't mean that other's don't either. Wake up.
 

Mike Hoxbig

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Whatever. I am not against it neither for it. My view is we do not need it so why have it.
Well, no offence, but who are you to say what we do and don't need? We don't need a lot of things, but just because you don't want it, doesn't mean that others don't.
 

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Well, no offence, but who are you to say what we do and don't need? We don't need a lot of things, but just because you don't want it, doesn't mean that others don't.
So you need it? Get on the net!

PS: look at the poll! Now get all your friends to "fix" that opinion and attitude.
 
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Elimentals

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So you need it? Get on the net!

PS: look at the poll! Now get all your friends to "fix" that opinion and attitude.
Erm I dont want to be funny but can you please explain to me what you read into that poll, as I for one still dont get the question.
 

Mike Hoxbig

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So you need it? Get on the net!
You obviously don't know the difference between need and want. Come back when you have a clue.

And I wasn't speaking on behalf of myself, but those who don't have the means and/or competence to get their fix off the net. You're going on about kids and government responsibility, but I don't see them intervening when it comes to providing kids with access to a smartphone, seeing that most kids have cellphones that internet-capable.
 

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You obviously don't know the difference between need and want. Come back when you have a clue.

And I wasn't speaking on behalf of myself, but those who don't have the means and/or competence to get their fix off the net. You're going on about kids and government responsibility, but I don't see them intervening when it comes to providing kids with access to a smartphone, seeing that most kids have cellphones that internet-capable.
Don't speak on behalf of others, they can do it themselves unless they are under 18. :) As I said I do not care either way but the question was" if the government should decide what is televised", I agreed they should.

So you want it? Get on the net! Now I covered your need and want, anything else?
 

Lycanthrope

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As I said I do not care either way but the question was" if the government should decide what is televised", I agreed they should.
Wrong again. The state should NEVER decide what is televised. That is the job of the BCCSA.
 

Elimentals

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Don't speak on behalf of others, they can do it themselves unless they are under 18. :) As I said I do not care either way but the question was" if the government should decide what is televised", I agreed they should.

So you want it? Get on the net!
I think that is a very dangerous statement, on that can be abused in so many ways.
 

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Don't speak on behalf of others, they can do it themselves unless they are under 18. :) As I said I do not care either way but the question was" if the government should decide what is televised", I agreed they should.

So you want it? Get on the net! Now I covered your need and want, anything else?
So you're of the opinion that government decide what is televised?

Well if you're of that opinion, you have no right to complain about their wanting to censor the media as well?

Or, even better, you have no problem with them banning multichoice and top tv from broadcasting anything, and government only allowing us SABC and E-tv?

Well by your logic, that's ok because if we wanna watch something, there's always internet piracy hey ;)
 

Mike Hoxbig

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As I said I do not care either way but the question was" if the government should decide what is televised", I agreed they should.
Good to know that you're a fan of government propaganda. Scary to know that you don't mind a bunch of apes without matrics dictating what should be broadcast for you to follow blindly. What does that say about you?
 

HapticSimian

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I agreed its a matter of principle, depends how you want to read it?
Not really, no. You merely misinterpreted it.

As an aside, seeing that you're a fan of the State regulating what you can and cannot view, I suggest you move:

 

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Me and a few of my friends don't like trains. can we ban that?

(we like helicopters)
 

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Good to know that you're a fan of government propaganda. Scary to know that you don't mind a bunch of apes without matrics dictating what should be broadcast for you to follow blindly. What does that say about you?
Well then when it come to porn I agree with that bunch of "apes" you are referring to. Tell us, what bunch of apes did you exactly have in mind? Only those without matric?

So what does that say about you, fighting your right to watch porn on TV with all might? If that is so important to you, you should join a lobby group to advocate for porn on TV.
 
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