Should state or organisations decide what we watch? - TopTV board

Is the ICASA vs. TopTV Playboy TV matter a principle issue?

  • Yes, it is a matter of principle

    Votes: 63 73.3%
  • No, it's really just about porn

    Votes: 23 26.7%

  • Total voters
    86

wily me

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I agree man, and we don't need trains either.

We don't care if other people make use of trains - we don't use them, and we don't like 'em. Ban trains!
Agreed, same with AAA and BEEEE who want it abolished? Only a very small, very insignificant group referred to as agents, so why do it? No matter that even a smaller even less significant group really benefits from these "laws".
 

Keeper

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Government is supposed to cater to the masses. Trains are for the masses, helicopters for the elitist few. Go take your elitist tendencies elsewhere.
I don't care what other people want, me and my friends don't like Trains and therefore they should be banned.

Nobody will even be allowed to THINK about using trains HAHA! People should not be allowed to travel how they want, the government should control all forms of transport.


If you want to look at trains, go use the internet! :rolleyes:
 

czc

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I don't care what other people want, me and my friends don't like Trains and therefore they should be banned.

Nobody will even be allowed to THINK about using trains HAHA! People should not be allowed to travel how they want, the government should control all forms of transport.


If you want to look at trains, go use the internet! :rolleyes:
I looked at trains and I liked it! Sexy :twisted:
 

Voicy

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Christians Deciding whats best for other people: 1
Freedom to make your own choices: 0
Until Christians decide on taking priests to task for buttraping little altar boys and finally deciding which parts of the bible is meant in a literal way and which is merely symbolic...instead of choosing their favourite rules as and when it suits them - I will not have them decide what's best for me.

Maybe its just a reaction based on the background of having lived under the 'old south africa', but I applaud the gradual erosion of the nation state, with its grandiose notions of protecting the citizenry from this or that global scourge...
What you're basically admitting is that you believe the government knows better than you what is best for you. You do not trust your own judgments and willpower to restrain yourself from intentionally subscribing to a paid-for service and that you are so weak that you need the government to intervene in order to avoid you giving into temptation.

I'm sorry, but that's the coward's way out of taking responsibility for his or her part in society.

I am not a TopTV subscriber, nor will I be and I will not benefit or suffer either way from the barring or approval of a porn channel. I do however have a problem with governments trying to legislate behaviour ... and to add insult to injury they do not comprehend the separation of church and state. It's been working out 'really well' for middle eastern countries.

Look how far we as a civilization have advanced in the last 100 years. We went from horse & cart to landing on the moon. Where would we have been by now if the dark ages' religious oppression did not hamper us from freedom of choice?
 

slowcheetah

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Apparently 32 people knows, none of them responded yet :)
The options are a bit suggestive, but I think it's about whether the people who are for porn on TV mean it for the sake of the porn (wanting to have it available) or not caring about the actual porn but the idea that the state can decide against it (and other things then).

Does that even make sense?
 

Elimentals

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The options are a bit suggestive, but I think it's about whether the people who are for porn on TV mean it for the sake of the porn (wanting to have it available) or not caring about the actual porn but the idea that the state can decide against it (and other things then).

Does that even make sense?
Aaah so its
(x) I dont want the government to tell me what I want to do
(o) Gimme PORN

Must admit the Yes/No thing is what confused me.
 

noxibox

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Just legalize porn, drugs, weed and public promiscuity already. See where that leads.
Well clearly banning weeds hasn't stopped them growing up through my paving, so I'll call that law a big failure. I blame the general moral decline and the widespread availability of soil for this problem. Won't somebody please think of the paving.
 

slowcheetah

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Aaah so its
(x) I dont want the government to tell me what I want to do
(o) Gimme PORN

Must admit the Yes/No thing is what confused me.
Yeah, but in the end even if it's just the porn a person is concerned about, it remains a matter of principle. It's not to say that if you choose the second option that it's simply out of a mindless lust for titties on TV :D
 

wily me

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Well clearly banning weeds hasn't stopped them growing up through my paving, so I'll call that law a big failure. I blame the general moral decline and the widespread availability of soil for this problem. Won't somebody please think of the paving.
How simplistic, You should join the ANC, as soon as possible. We have a president in the making here.
 

noxibox

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Government is supposed to cater to the masses. Trains are for the masses, helicopters for the elitist few. Go take your elitist tendencies elsewhere.
Let them fly in helicopters (as Marie Antoinette is alleged to have said on this matter).

I don't care what other people want, me and my friends don't like Trains and therefore they should be banned.

Nobody will even be allowed to THINK about using trains HAHA! People should not be allowed to travel how they want, the government should control all forms of transport.

If you want to look at trains, go use the internet! :rolleyes:
Besides trains kill children with all that dangerous track all over the place. Why build fences when you can just ban trains.
 

satanboy

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Should I? Why. As I said I really do not care anyway, so do we need extra TV channels of porn? Just legalize porn, drugs, weed and public promiscuity already. See where that leads.
Since when is porn illegal?
 

Mike Hoxbig

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Should I? Why. As I said I really do not care anyway, so do we need extra TV channels of porn? Just legalize porn, drugs, weed and public promiscuity already. See where that leads.
For somebody who doesn't care, you certainly seem very opinionated about it.
 

KSINGH

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theres no " all of the above" option!!! i voted principle just because...
 

latro

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Whahahaha. Nicely said but then again will JuJu take the train or chopper? Then I agree fully with Keeper. I wish ICASA can make broadband decisions as fast as they take porn decisions.
Look, everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, but that last sentence was the most logical thing you said in this whole thread.
 

Kosmik

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Open market. People have a right to watch what they want as long as it is not harmful to others ie: kiddie porn.
 

Johand

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I would like to see what ICASA say. It might be a perfectly reasonable excuse:

1) To actually protect TopTV, because who in their right might will buy porn package when you can it it on the interweb?
2) To stimulate faster roll-out of broadband, they don't want the number one application be made less attractive with broadcasting competition.
3) The Hotel industry lobbied against that.
4) The CEO of ICASA has a personal grudge against Kleenex.
5) The CEO of ICASA believes the service is too expensive and they will only accept it if there are free broadcast slots for less privileged people.

It might not have anything to do with freedom of speech at all!
 

noxibox

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How simplistic, You should join the ANC, as soon as possible. We have a president in the making here.
Oh dear, I heard the school system was bad, but I had no idea it was this bad. Your response implies, at the very least, a massive comprehension failure. Might be some irony recognition issues in the right planar modulator as well.
 
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