Should we feel sorry for non-seatbelt wearers?

[supersunbird]

So today I read in yesterdays newspaper a story entitled "Father killed in crash returning from wedding", all 4 the occupants were THROWN from the BMW which had hit some signposts and overturned.

Clearly they werent wearing seatbelts, thus, should I feel one iota of symphathy for them? Cause I dont, except MAYBE for the son and daughter that where involved cause they could still be underage and not know better, article doesnt state ages.

Lebo M was apparently also flung from the vehicle in her accident. So i dont think its a tragic loss, she was playing with her life by not buckling up. I always tell the people that get in the car with me to buckle up, I refuse to drive anywhere if they arent.

There is just no good reason not to buckle up. It has saved my life in a accident and if I wasnt wearing one my brain would be part of a windscreen.

Also, someone on radio said that in Soweto its uncool to wear seatbelts, yeah, its must be much better and cooler to be dead...

 

[gboy]

I agree with you 100%,

What irrates me is when parents allow there little kids to jump around the back seats, while they are driving. I also hate the small dogs on the back shelf of the car.

 

[Telkomisaloser]

It's a good thing when criminals don't wear seat belts and you do

 

[killadoob]

guys your telling me you dont feel sorry because they didnt wear seatbelts?

sis man

ive heard stories of over turned cars and ppl burnt 90% of their body because they couldnt un do their seatbelts

you have your day seatbelt or not

maybe you shouldnt care because they where speeding

o they where speeding who cares that they died
sick mAN

 

[supersunbird]

guys your telling me you dont feel sorry because they didnt wear seatbelts?

sis man

ive heard stories of over turned cars and ppl burnt 90% of their body because they couldnt un do their seatbelts

you have your day seatbelt or not

maybe you shouldnt care because they where speeding

o they where speeding who cares that they died
sick mAN

Well, the number of people that die because their car catches fire and they cant get out is SIGNIFICANTLY (I'd guess 99%) lower than people that die because they werent wearing a seatbelt. So if ones fear of burning to death is SO great, then dont wear it, but dont expect me to feel sympathy when they die from blunt impact trauma.

And yeah, you shouldn't feel sorry for the speeder that loses control of his car and dies, if that accident kills other innocents of course you can feel sorrow for them.

If I die because I was speeding then I dont want anyone crying and moaning...

 

[Angelo]

Lebo M was apparently also flung from the vehicle in her accident.

Grammy Award winning Lebo M might be a little older but he is alive and kicking.

 

[Leitmotif]

If I die because I was speeding then I dont want anyone crying and moaning...

I share this sentiment... of course, my bike also doesn't have seatbelts, but anyway...

 

[mac_mac74]

So today I read in yesterdays newspaper a story entitled "Father killed in crash returning from wedding", all 4 the occupants were THROWN from the BMW which had hit some signposts and overturned.

Clearly they werent wearing seatbelts, thus, should I feel one iota of symphathy for them? Cause I dont, except MAYBE for the son and daughter that where involved cause they could still be underage and not know better, article doesnt state ages.

Lebo M was apparently also flung from the vehicle in her accident. So i dont think its a tragic loss, she was playing with her life by not buckling up. I always tell the people that get in the car with me to buckle up, I refuse to drive anywhere if they arent.

There is just no good reason not to buckle up. It has saved my life in a accident and if I wasnt wearing one my brain would be part of a windscreen.

Also, someone on radio said that in Soweto its uncool to wear seatbelts, yeah, its must be much better and cooler to be dead...

Although i agree with wearing seatbelts 100%,
as strange as this sounds, someone i know was involved in a motor accident and was not wearing a seat belt. Judging by the car, if she was wearing a seat belt and remained in her seat, she would have been critically injured as the drivers side of the car was demolished - she ended up with a couple scratches and a bump on the head.

 

[BCO]

I think that South African motorists genereally don't care about their own safety on the road, hence the number of cars like the Citi golf still selling by the thousands.

 

[BCO]

Cool, I coined a very descriptive new word, "genereally".

 

[supersunbird]

I think that South African motorists genereally don't care about their own safety on the road, hence the number of cars like the Citi golf still selling by the thousands.

Because of price. And cheapness of servicing these instead of some electronic cant-easily-repair and expensive-to-repair modern engine...

 

[Claymore]

Seatbelts have saved me a good couple of times. Wearing seatbelts is the best thing you can possibly do in an accident - it's had a greater effect on survival chances in cars than everything else put together.

 

[mac_mac74]

Because of price. And cheapness of servicing these instead of some electronic cant-easily-repair and expensive-to-repair modern engine...

yeah , because motor manufacturers continuously rip us off !!!! why we ask, well , has anyone asked why BEE has not been applied to any motor manufacturers !!!!!

rip off the consumer and pump money into sponsoring all kinds of ****, that will keep government off their backs.

 

[Leitmotif]

'Genereally'... yeah, gives you that warm, seeping, blood-in-your-urine feeling

My gf was also in an accident where the driver's side was pretty much annihilated. She was wearing her seatbelt, and while she did acquire hairline fractures in her sternum and a number of nasty cuts and bruises, I'm pretty sure that being unfettered inside the spinning car would have been worse.

Depends on the accident.

 

[Leitmotif]

Because of price. And cheapness of servicing these instead of some electronic cant-easily-repair and expensive-to-repair modern engine...

True. I have a friend with a 1980s-era citigolf. Pretty much as old as I am. Anything breaks, it's half an hour of work and about r60 worth of parts to fix it.

Still wouldn't go near a citi... colleague bought one each for himself and his wife. A week later he had to take both back to get the factory faults sorted out. Not small stuff either.

 

[GavinMannion]

Seatbelts have saved me a good couple of times. Wearing seatbelts is the best thing you can possibly do in an accident - it's had a greater effect on survival chances in cars than everything else put together.

Dude if they have saved you 'a good couple of times' maybe it's time you took some more driving lessons?

My seatbelt has never saved me

My personal pet peeve: Kids not buckled in.... The parents should be put in jail for attempted murder in my opinion.

There is no excuse.
[Warning RANT]
Also no YOU, yes I am talking to YOU, cannot drive a car and talk on your phone perfectly fine... I ride a bike and see these people everyday and not once in three years of biking and a daily basis have I seen someone who is capable of pulling off from a robot properly while on the phone.

It's not a stupid law, YOU really can't do it. Accept facts..[/RANT]

 

[BCO]

Because of price. And cheapness of servicing these instead of some electronic cant-easily-repair and expensive-to-repair modern engine...

Price? There are safer cars at the price. Let's not mention the 90kw "hot" Citi that VWSA is releasing for just over R100k. Not really cheap at all and highly irresponsible of VWSA IMO.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

 

[bwana]

Seatbelts save lives - fact.

Research has shown that lap/shoulder belts, when used properly, reduce the risk of fatal injury to front-seat passenger car occupants by 45 percent and the risk of moderate to critical injury by 50 percent. For light truck occupants, safety belts reduce the risk of fatal injury by 60 percent and moderate-to-critical injury by 65 percent.

My car doesnt move unless everyone is buckled up.

I'm not going to feel sorry for idiots who dont want to wear them.

 

[mac_mac74]

Price? There are safer cars at the price. Let's not mention the 90kw "hot" Citi that VWSA is releasing for just over R100k. Not really cheap at all and highly irresponsible of VWSA IMO.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Typical VW , they have a reputation of taking something away and then bringing it back. ie. that 90Kw Hot citi is the old CTI motor thats been tweaked , which was derived from the Golf GTI mark 1 - that engine has been paid for a number of times over.

I remember a few yrs back they removed the rear windscreen wiper from the bottom of range CITI, and then they advertise a few months later "WITH REAR WINDSCREEN WIPER".

I once sat in a friends CITI with 6000km on clock and the driver seat broke, yeah before you ask, NO i dont have a fat ass either.

I wouldnt buy a VW, even with someone else's money!!!!

 

[BCO]

So true, mac_mac, but I differ on one point. I think the motor in this upcoming citi is a newer design than the CTi motor, but still...