Skilled people are leaving South Africa in droves – and government’s unemployment plans can’t stop it

[Ghost64]

How many actually qualify after 7 years? Very, very few. They usually start dropping out within the first year.


Pharmacist Assistant (Retail) - if Dischem employs anyone else to assist the pharmacist it is illegal, which is highly unlikely.

Well if 250 didn’t get internships at the start of 2021, it means the rest did. I think 500 were allocated to private hospitals alone the government hospitals are the most sort after. So I would guess 1000 ish or more doctors could have qualified in 2020. Just their internships to finish.

 

[etienne_marais]

It isn’t true that governments simply get out of the way and quality employment just happens. Typically in successful countries the government was heavily involved in pouring money into the economy. South Africa’s problems are more complicated and won’t be solved by utopian libertarian nonsense.


If he knew that doing the same stupid thing over and over for decades was a bad idea then why did he and his fellow idiots do it?

To prevent this:

 

[Supervan II]

Well if 250 didn’t get internships at the start of 2021, it means the rest did. I think 500 were allocated to private hospitals alone the government hospitals are the most sort after. So I would guess 1000 ish or more doctors could have qualified in 2020. Just their internships to finish.

And has absolutely nothing to do with pharmacists.

Their situation is far more complicated, thanks to the SAPC, which has legislated many ordinary people out of their jobs: eg, jobs that were once performed by clerks must now be performed by pharmacists (which compounds the shortage problem). Furthermore, you are more likely to have a pharmacist exiting the profession to become Factory Managers, reps, CEOs, MDs, etc, etc than doctors.

 

[Ghost64]

Sure

Training to read doctors handwriting?

 

[ConfusedR]

There is nothing he can do. He should not get involved in these type of discussions or give any comments on it. People are leaving the country. He cannot stop the braindrain from happening. Best he can do is to work on strengthening the military and police. One never know when you will need them.

I agree. In the immediate situation, he cannot really do anything. The ANC destroyed the country over a period of time with destruction of the education system, lawlessness, corruption, no service delivery and ineffective business policies that only suit certain people.

In comparison to the EFF.
The EFF will destroy what is left of the country in a matter of days with land/property grabs.

 

[BCR]

Training to read doctors handwriting?

More recently - the last 6 months - I've been seeing doctors issuing PC typed scripts.

So, hopefully this trend continues / increases, and no more deciphering of handwriting needed.

 

[Ghost64]

More recently - the last 6 months - I've been seeing doctors issuing PC typed scripts.

So, hopefully this trend continues / increases, and no more deciphering of handwriting needed.

Ahhh technology, just a matter of time till pharmacists are replaced by vending machines...

 

[RonSwanson]

Irrelevant. The job needs to get done and they get to do it if there are no locals available with the scarce skills required.

Kak. Many organisations (in particular government) simply don't bother filling those posts, especially not if the qualifying candidates are a white South Africans, to the detriment of the populace.

Edit: And here's the proof: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/thr...race-promotion-equality-court-battle.1159518/

 

[RonSwanson]

In the 80s, especially '85 and '86 clever AF people weren't very enthused about having to go to the army, so they left SA.

There may have been, but they were a minority, not even worth counting.

 

[RonSwanson]

one cannot reason with the average anc person

The below speaks to your point

Why would you even waste your time doing that? It's the skilled people you need to reason with, explain to them why leaving is bad for our country.

 

[Aghori]

Very few of my 100's of college colleagues returned to ZA after they emigrated. A few came back only because of family responsibilities etc. I'm here only because conducting business is much easier due to our political/social climate.

 

[rvZA]

Very few of my 100's of college colleagues returned to ZA after they emigrated. A few came back only because of family responsibilities etc. I'm here only because conducting business is much easier due to our political/social climate.

I have seen the same in recent years. Fewer friends and family are coming back. Had three friends who left in the 1990's and came back to SA. All three left again and none has returned. It has been more than 10 years now. I think the new moves are permanent. People simply do not have the apetite for what is coming...

 

[The Trutherizer]

Well we've all head of the grass is greener, and sometimes it's entirely subjective. However, in SA we have a bunch of cadres actively destroying the lawn.

 

[ConfusedR]

Well we've all head of the grass is greener, and sometimes it's entirely subjective. However, in SA we have a bunch of cadres actively destroying the lawn.

Exactly.
The ANC cadres are destroying the lawn and then they want to blame apartheid for the lawn not being there.

 

[PaulMurkin]

Why would we give a toss about us leaving being bad for the country? We're uprooting our entire lives to get away from the place. Do you think we feel any loyalty to it?

One thing that I will say, is that, if and when I do leave here, I will leave the forum too. I don't want to even remotely become like those useless fscks sitting in New Zealand and other countries, and are on this forum, and moan about the ANC, as if it affects them, all the while sitting in a first world jib.

You leave the place, you move on, start moaning about your destination country, and the stupidity in Arsetalia with all its little regulations and laws. Nanny state on steroids!

 

[PaulMurkin]

Exactly.
The ANC cadres are destroying the lawn and then they want to blame apartheid for the lawn not being there.

Stupid is what stupid does.
Stupid communists do what stupid communists do the world over, cause trouble, let nuclear plants explode and blame something else.

 

[Messugga]

One thing that I will say, is that, if and when I do leave here, I will leave the forum too. I don't want to even remotely become like those useless fscks sitting in New Zealand and other countries, and are on this forum, and moan about the ANC, as if it affects them, all the while sitting in a first world jib.

You leave the place, you move on, start moaning about your destination country, and the stupidity in Arsetalia with all its little regulations and laws. Nanny state on steroids!

Yep. I'm done with this place once I'm out as well.

 

[Ghost64]

One thing that I will say, is that, if and when I do leave here, I will leave the forum too. I don't want to even remotely become like those useless fscks sitting in New Zealand and other countries, and are on this forum, and moan about the ANC, as if it affects them, all the while sitting in a first world jib.

You leave the place, you move on, start moaning about your destination country, and the stupidity in Arsetalia with all its little regulations and laws. Nanny state on steroids!

Don’t understand why they do that.... there’s so much to do and learn about their new country yet they still sit on SA forums.

 

[Sinbad]

Don’t understand why they do that.... there’s so much to do and learn about their new country yet they still sit on SA forums.

I have friends here?

 

[cguy]

I have friends here?

Don’t you know that the moment you leave the country you lived in a majority of your life, all the concerns and discussions that affect your fellow citizens, family and friends immediately cease to matter to you?

You need to quit this forum. Twice!