Skilled people are leaving South Africa in droves – and government’s unemployment plans can’t stop it

aleksandar

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Well if 250 didn’t get internships at the start of 2021, it means the rest did. I think 500 were allocated to private hospitals alone the government hospitals are the most sort after. So I would guess 1000 ish or more doctors could have qualified in 2020. Just their internships to finish.
Just checked with my medical sources, interns can not practice in private facilities.
Due to money shortage some interns were not placed in Jan as they should, it seems it is issue every year.
 

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Just checked with my medical sources, interns can not practice in private facilities.
Due to money shortage some interns were not placed in Jan as they should, it seems it is issue every year.
Some private hospitals can accept interns, depending on their field of study. But ye placements were a mess this year due to funds, pandemic and other admin. But too many didn’t want to visit clinics in rural areas this year for some reason. Some hospitals also opted for retirees coming back to assist than taking in interns in jan coz of the 2nd wave of covid.
 

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Some private hospitals can accept interns, depending on their field of study. But ye placements were a mess this year due to funds, pandemic and other admin. But too many didn’t want to visit clinics in rural areas this year for some reason. Some hospitals also opted for retirees coming back to assist than taking in interns in jan coz of the 2nd wave of covid.
Young doctors can only do internship in government hospitals.
Issue of lack of money and placement started before covid.
 

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In the past 6-8 months I have had a number of friends leave for The Netherlands, all of them are professionals:
2 x pharmacists (hubby & wife) plus 2 kids - Leiderdorp
1 x Electrical Engineer, wife & 2 kids - Arnhem
1 x Senior Manager (Pharmaceuticals), hubby & 2 kids - Krimpen aan den IJssel
1 Software Developer and wife - Almelo

I very much doubt that they'll be back

You can add a CA and a PMP qualified logistics manager to that list - Hoofdorp.

We also never coming back, except maybe to visit.
 

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You can add a CA and a PMP qualified logistics manager to that list - Hoofdorp.

We also never coming back, except maybe to visit.

Gratz on the move btw. I've been to Hoofdorp once or twice. Beautiful place. Beautiful country. I'm jealous over how flat it is.
 

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Problem is when skilled people leave the ensuing problems never happen overnight. Take the one IT project in progress for my company.
  1. For years they were very good and delivered on time/budget/quality.
  2. Top skilled guys started to leave and were replaced with Indian subcontractors or less skilled people.
  3. First delays were a few weeks, then a month, current project is 4 months behind.
  4. Budget overruns went from the odd exception to the norm, to the point where the company now tells me if I don't pay more, they cannot complete the work and I lose everything I have paid to date.
  5. Quality ... Eish!
Does anyone think that I will ever give this company another contract to do?
Does anyone think that I do not share my experience with other business owners who might be considering making use of their services?
 

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Why would you even waste your time doing that? It's the skilled people you need to reason with, explain to them why leaving is bad for our country.
People want to see clear signs the ANC has learned from its past mistakes. That they’re willing to take harsh action against the incompetent and the corrupt in the ANC’s ranks. They want a stable electricity supply that isn’t priced based on propping up corruption. They want the ANC to stop creating new laws to give the appearance of doing something instead of simply enforcing a perfectly adequate existing law. They want the ANC to stop attempts at quick fixes and grand plans whose only real aim is to garner votes with no regard for the consequences, like NHI, a national pension fund, etc. It’s the ANC, EFF, UDM and the like, along with their voters, that don’t care about the country. The skilled people that are leaving, they or their parents stayed on in South Africa when they could have left long ago. They really wanted to stay. They actually cared.
 

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There is some quote attributed to Verwoerd, which boils down to "blacks can't run a country as has been seen", so are you saying that Verwoerd gave the country for blacks to run over and over? Doubt.
I’d say white people, well a specific group of them, couldn’t run a country. They certainly proved that. Over and over.
 

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You mean the exact situation he and his fellow lazy idiots contributed towards creating. You don’t do yourself any favours persistently trying to pretend that lot did a good job. They were busy destroying just as effectively as the current government and they would have happily burned it all to the ground rather than give up their racist ideology and cheap labour. And people just kept voting for them. Then you want to call ANC voters stupid. It would be funny if it was’t so patently ridiculous.
 

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I’d say white people, well a specific group of them, couldn’t run a country. They certainly proved that. Over and over.

Indeed, I remember all the loadshedding, broken street lights, dirty town and city centres, potholed streets, unpainted streets and similar from when I was a kid.

I also remember the propaganda.
 

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Stupid is what stupid does.
Stupid communists do what stupid communists do the world over, cause trouble, let nuclear plants explode and blame something else.
People really should stop calling them communists. There is nothing remotely communist about the ANC. Calling them communist is just silly.
 
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I’d say white people, well a specific group of them, couldn’t run a country. They certainly proved that. Over and over.
Thursday lols....I suppose anything goes...I never thought chicken could run a country either...
That was shown to be incorrect this week....
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Indeed, I remember all the loadshedding, broken street lights, dirty town and city centres, potholed streets, unpainted streets and similar from when I was a kid.

I also remember the propaganda.

And don't give me some BS about the electrification of people who didn't have it before, the problem is with generation, building new capacity and maintanance.

And just because they ran the country badly, they didn't run it THIS badly.
 

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And don't give me some BS about the electrification of people who didn't have it before, the problem is with generation, building new capacity and maintanance.

And just because they ran the country badly, they didn't run it THIS badly.
Having loads of electricity and not supplying it to the people is the very definition of not running a country properly, you also wouldn't care about how much they were hogging if you were the one who had no electricity.
 

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There was enough for everyone (willing to pay, or receive their free small portion), or else we'd not be able to loose however many thousands of megawatts and only be on stage 4.
 

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Having loads of electricity and not supplying it to the people is the very definition of not running a country properly, you also wouldn't care about how much they were hogging if you were the one who had no electricity.

While this is all fair and well, it's a moot argument as Eskom's generating capacity is less now than it was "back then".

Kusile and Medupi are physical testaments to the abysmal failure of the current regime to even run a bath, let alone keep the lights on.
 
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