Smart2go or Navigon GPS Software

[vrk]

Hi, I am due for an upgrade and I am looking for GPS functionality in my next phone. I see that Nokia N95 has the SmartTogo software and the HTC 3300 has the Navigon software. Which one is better, are the functionalities the same? i am looking at the following:
Price of Phone
Price of using other Windows Mobile 5 phones and getting an external receiver
Functionality - Point of interest (POI), Own POI, Speed trap database, Turn by Turn
Download of upgrade to software
Download of upgrades to maps
etc

Please assist as I am really confused which on to purchase? which route to take

 

[thed33p]

N95's GPS is a bit dodgy - old chipset, bad antenna placement and you have to subscribe @ $110 / 3 years (iirc) to get full functionality...

 

[Piesang]

N95's GPS is a bit dodgy - old chipset, bad antenna placement and you have to subscribe @ $110 / 3 years (iirc) to get full functionality...

N95's GPS is working 100% for me.

 

[JK8]

N95's GPS is working 100% for me.

Ye it works, but it sucks compared to the P3300!

 

[Piesang]

Ye it works, but it sucks compared to the P3300!

That is all that the the P3300 have that's good. All other functions suck.

 

[JK8]

That is all that the the P3300 have that's good. All other functions suck.

But this is a topic about GPS on phones and the HTC wins in this area.

 

[Piesang]

But this is a topic about GPS on phones and the HTC wins in this area.

I'm sure that vrk would like to have a working phone as well. Windows Mobile devices (Especially HTC and i-Mate) are not good phones. PDA's yes, I had lots of them and I finally got to my senses.

 

[RichardG]

I'd rather let you buy a proper GPS Navigator. Trust me its not worth it waisting ur money on an upgrade.

The Nokia N95, I thought it worked differently only to discover you've to pay for that Voice and the Antenna was placed under the phone.

Hi, I am due for an upgrade and I am looking for GPS functionality in my next phone. I see that Nokia N95 has the SmartTogo software and the HTC 3300 has the Navigon software. Which one is better, are the functionalities the same? i am looking at the following:
Price of Phone
Price of using other Windows Mobile 5 phones and getting an external receiver
Functionality - Point of interest (POI), Own POI, Speed trap database, Turn by Turn
Download of upgrade to software
Download of upgrades to maps
etc

Please assist as I am really confused which on to purchase? which route to take

 

[Johnit]

I have used HP iPaq 6515 with Handimap, Nokia E61 (with external bluetooth GPS) with Smart2Go, and Garmin Nuvi with Garmin Maps. For Navigation the Garmin wins hands down, but then it is a dedicated device for navigation. The Handimap software and Garmin software will give speed trap warnings for static speed traps, the Nokia does not have that information as far as I can tell. The Nokia userinterface is better than Handimap though. The bottom line is that the Nokia maps are good, but don't have the same coverage and detail. Their licensing model is favourable; you can even activate it for just a week or so while travelling, but then the cost per day is comparatively high.

No multipurpose device will beat a dedicated device, but then can one justify the expense of the dedicated device?

 

[JK8]

I have used HP iPaq 6515 with Handimap, Nokia E61 (with external bluetooth GPS) with Smart2Go, and Garmin Nuvi with Garmin Maps. For Navigation the Garmin wins hands down, but then it is a dedicated device for navigation. The Handimap software and Garmin software will give speed trap warnings for static speed traps, the Nokia does not have that information as far as I can tell. The Nokia userinterface is better than Handimap though. The bottom line is that the Nokia maps are good, but don't have the same coverage and detail. Their licensing model is favourable; you can even activate it for just a week or so while travelling, but then the cost per day is comparatively high.

No multipurpose device will beat a dedicated device, but then can one justify the expense of the dedicated device?

You never used a P3300 i take it.

 

[Derren]

The N95 GPS and navigation works for me. Yes the attenna might be under the keyboard but I can open the phone and put it in front of my steering wheel between the rev counter and speedometer and it still picks up the satellites despite not having a clear view of the sky.

You might pay extra for the voice navigation but it really isn't that much expensive given that your subscription includes any updates, etc.

And wherever I have used it to navigate me it has given accurate directions and chosen pretty good to excellent routes.

My only problem - my home street is not in the database - yet.

Anyway... it is a nice introduction to GPS and mapping. Much better for me to spend the money on a full-featured phone than on a Garmin 276C (which is what i would buy) that I would only use once a month. If you find the built-in GPS receiver problematic then you can get an external one...

Anyway... I am pretty impressed.

 

[vrk]

I know of a person that has the HTC Tytan, is complaining about the phone reception, maybe Piesang has a point here.

I did not own a HTC phone before, as I mentioned I am up for an upgrade and I am also looking for a GPS so why not have both in one device.

Johnit, I agree with U in terms of a dedicated device, but a decent Garmin costs around R3500, I cannot justify this unless it also works as a speed trap detector (both static as well as mobile) as the fines are really steep nowdays and a few misses will probably pay for the device.

 

[dotVIBE]

I have an HTC TyTn (the reception is fine btw) and a bluetooth GPS receiver. Handymap works just as well as Garmin does. Currently I am actually running TomTom navigator 6, and this beats everything else hands down. I have played with the N95 before, and the GPS functionality works, but is very basic. The 3300 is MUCH better at GPS that the N95 will be, but the N95's phone functions are much easier to use.

So, you need to decide what you want. A GPS/PPC with phone functionality, or a phone with some GPS funtionality.

 

[Derren]

vrk - if you are particularly looking for avoiding speed traps etc it would seem you would want to use your GPS/Mapping/Navigation all the time. I would go for a dedicated GPS system then - A Garmin Nuvi or something.

 

[JK8]

Does the N95 show the yellow arches of Macdonalds everytime you drive past??
Nahh didnt think so... I think the P3300 is the best, but I havent used a dedicated GPS before to compare it to.

 

[dotVIBE]

I've had a Garmin Nuvi. Sold it when I got my TyTn because I didn't need it anymore. The nuvi is quick & easy to plan the route, but the navigation is no better than that of HandyMap on the TyTn. My problem with nuvi was that I hated leaving it in the car for all and sundry to steal.
TomTom is actually easier to use than the Nuvi, since it's optimised for PDA. & I love the celeb voices. Am currently using Captain Jean Luc Pickard.
Trajectory plotted, engage warp drive!
freekin rocks

 

[vrk]

I've had a Garmin Nuvi. Sold it when I got my TyTn because I didn't need it anymore. The nuvi is quick & easy to plan the route, but the navigation is no better than that of HandyMap on the TyTn. My problem with nuvi was that I hated leaving it in the car for all and sundry to steal.
TomTom is actually easier to use than the Nuvi, since it's optimised for PDA. & I love the celeb voices. Am currently using Captain Jean Luc Pickard.
Trajectory plotted, engage warp drive!
freekin rocks

Where did you get the TomTom Navigator from? How much is it?

 

[dotVIBE]

Where did you get the TomTom Navigator from? How much is it?

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you

I don't know where you'd buy it though. Maybe mail the guys at tomtom.co.za?

 

[dalmine007]

Hi also using TomTom on n80 beats smart2go any time but do u know how to use trafic updates and also has it got speedtrap detection also

 

[vrk]

Hi also using TomTom on n80 beats smart2go any time but do u know how to use trafic updates and also has it got speedtrap detection also

Can someone please inform me where do I purchase this TomTom software interface? How much does it cost?

You obviously have a bluetooth GPS receiver and installed the TomTom software via you PC. Does TomTom make a version for windows mobile?

Did you have a chance to use the Navigon software, apparently I spoke to the SA suppliers of the HTC and they have Navigon installed compared to TomTom for the overseas models. The overseas TomTom version does not have speed trap detection.