So iBurst ..are you gonna follow telkom and ISP's and also lower your prices ?

noemfie

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Just wondering ... if iBurst will come to the party with increased pressure from Telkom and ISP's on pricing . ADSL 512 with 30 GB cap from 1 Aug 2005 is R477 (ADSL line) + R408 (new price from Adept Internet) + R80 (dial up line rental) = R 965 ... getting more and more feasible . So ..iBurst ...your move
 

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noemfie said:
Just wondering ... if iBurst will come to the party with increased pressure from Telkom and ISP's on pricing . ADSL 512 with 30 GB cap from 1 Aug 2005 is R477 (ADSL line) + R408 (new price from Adept Internet) + R80 (dial up line rental) = R 965 ... getting more and more feasible . So ..iBurst ...your move
why I think that Telkom will drop enough the ADSL prices to kill the wireless market ... if it is not already dead :)
 

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Yes its a good point. When iburst became commercially available, the going "Broadband" standard was 3GB, I think its safe to say that 30GB accounts are now becoming the standard, its time for IB to move on and get a few more imaginative packages going.
 

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At first I believed iBurst would be the salvation....but now it's starting to look more and more like we're rats on a sinking ship :confused:

If WBS don't drop their prices I will most likely get 192kbps with a 20gb account that I will be sharing with a friend. This will be much cheaper than R469 that I pay currently. Sure I will miss the 1mbps, but I don't get that anymore this month for some reason, so I can't really loose something I don't have anymore. :(

WBS I'm waiting for your move.
 

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heres my take, they only raised prices in April, now alot more users sign up than they anticipated but if they still havent seen profit we won't see price cuts.
iBurst are going for first time internet users or people with limited choice anyways so the prices seem to be OK, and I don't think we will see a drop in prices because Telkom haven't targetted that market, at least not effectivly.

They compete for business clients but think about your average home user in say Deveyton, thats where the money is because thats the largest segment to be signed up to broadband and also the same segment Telkom doesn't target. If iBurst wants to target the main business group, but not only the ones that need mobility in and around JHb then they wwill need to make soem changes, the price is still cheap so maybe they needs to provide larger limits for caps.

What I'd like to see iBurst do more so than a price drop is offer one or more of the following as new packages or tack it onto existing ones.

* Offer uncapped or high usage accounts (they go through UUNET so they could base the price competitivly based on buying bandwidth in bulk and they *could* offer uncapped accounts if they wanted to) and a 30GB account and not being cut off after hitting the limit would be amazing.

* Offer faster capped speeds, you know 64kbit is dial up basically but if they upped that to 128kbit or got real competitive and upped it to 192kbit then who would honestly use 192kbit adsl (assuming the user could get thier fare share of speed) unless they needed great local pings.

* Offer a second limit (cap) like they do in Australia (similar situation to us) for off peak hours, lets say you're on a 3GB account, you get your normal 3GB for anytime but on major off peak times like 12AM - 6AM every user gets say 9GB (or however many GBs), that then creates an incentive to not hammer the network in the day and means they can advertise thier basic account offers 12GB per month, instead of 3. SO they can kill 2 birds with one stone.

* Drop the price per GB after the cap, as it is now its too much I think we can all agree.

* Use their fancy throttling system to offer slower accounts (1mbit is great and I don't want to take a step backwards but not everyone wants or needs 1mbit). Because some users do not get 1mbit is light green or white areas its an easier target to reach.

* Let resellers make their own packages and more importantly I would like more resellers in the game, thats whats pushing Telkom ADSL right now, Telkom never offered 30GB accounts that was all the resellers.
 

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maybe the price wont Drop. I wish it did.

WBS = need to cover there money up for all the base station they put up and all.
If we see change maybe they'll add more GIG only but wont drop the price thats for sure... They need to cover there losses over the next 3 yrs or so...

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This is my point of view.
 

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I doubt that they will drop their prices so soon after actual launch of the products. They will (if they have any sense whatsoever) offer more products to try and expand their market share and compete wi the high cap offerings from Telkom. Sentech is no competition at all (given the rpicing structure of their latest offerings), so they will be almost justified in the charging of their current rates as they are.
 

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In fact that might be there saving grace

Daveogg said:
Yes its a good point. When iburst became commercially available, the going "Broadband" standard was 3GB, I think its safe to say that 30GB accounts are now becoming the standard, its time for IB to move on and get a few more imaginative packages going.


Absolutely right, Daveogg........... 30gb at full burst speed then 64Kb/s is what
Iburst should offer by default now.
In fact that might be there saving grace, make up for all the WBS non-communicado policies and the silent treatment.
Question is I think maybe there upstream providors have them in a squeeze judging from there reactions to bandwidth issues.
Mebbe they got no clout to negotiate lower prices??? :eek:
 
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