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Sorry I already got a taker.
Hi John, can you send me the contact details and do u mind telling me how much it cost?
Ibiza gave the contact details in post #83.
1 carton box of 20 JC300M-24/Ab panels for USD 4,035.60, VAT included, EXW in Durban.
I'm still waiting for a quote for the shipping. Because I asked for 24 panels in the beginning, they initially did not add shipping, but said they can ship to Pretoria.
1 carton box of 20 JC300M-24/Ab panels for USD 4,035.60, VAT included, EXW in Durban.
I'm still waiting for a quote for the shipping. Because I asked for 24 panels in the beginning, they initially did not add shipping, but said they can ship to Pretoria.
Pretty sure shipping will push this to R3K+ per panel...25 x 300W I retail at R3200 per panel (inclusive).
Would be keen to see your final price (inclusive of shipping). Apparently, making R100 / R150 profit per panel makes me a supplier that 'rips off customers'
Let us know when you have everything sorted, would be interested in how it went.
Pretty sure shipping will push this to R3K+ per panel...25 x 300W I retail at R3200 per panel (inclusive).
Would be keen to see your final price (inclusive of shipping). Apparently, making R100 / R150 profit per panel makes me a supplier that 'rips off customers'
R150 + ~R300 vat back for double vat which you are pretending doesn't exist + ~R300 or more that you have hidden in inflated shipping charges + any discount that you get from the seller as a vendor.
Please R10.66/w is daylight robbery, who do you think you are fooling? There are some vendors in this country at R8.50/w or less and quite clearly they are not charities.
The dishonesty of some people in this country is astounding, and then people like you have the gal/hypocrisy to act outraged when the ANC do the same, take a long hard look in the mirror you are part of the problem.
Ok, there were some movement. It turned out that they made a mistake and a pallet is actually 25 or 30 panels. 25 suits me better in any case. The price per panel is still the same, so for 25 panels it is USD 5044.5, VAT included, but now EXW in Midrand. So I can either pick it up or have it delivered for USD 228, VAT included.
I'm waiting for them to prepare the invoice in ZAR so that I can pay them.
Uhm - but that is what the OP is paying? How is that my fault?
USD 4,035.60 = ZAR 50,853.78, or R2,542.69 (R8.47/W) per panel (based on his initial assessment of 20 panels).
Given that it is NOW apparent it is 25 panels, yes, R2, 034.15 (R6.78/W) per panel is most certainly not a bad price. That's the difference that no shipping required makes - and it is apparent that there are a huge difference that shipping JHB -> CPT makes (in my case anyways)...
It still doesn't make me dishonest though, you can say what you want
I'd be more than happy to share my invoices from suppliers, and my invoices to customers... My supplier charges me R2,814.91 (9.38) ex VAT. I don't dictate their pricing... This has however, encouraged me as a business, to contact ReneSolar directly, of course.
Ok, there were some movement. It turned out that they made a mistake and a pallet is actually 25 or 30 panels. 25 suits me better in any case. The price per panel is still the same, so for 25 panels it is USD 5044.5, VAT included, but now EXW in Midrand. So I can either pick it up or have it delivered for USD 228, VAT included.
I'm waiting for them to prepare the invoice in ZAR so that I can pay them.
That is a BLOODY good deal, and you can be very lucky that you don't have to worry about shipping. Granted, it's still going to cost you a few bobs to move that palet with 25 panels around safely...
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So the problem is obviously the distributors...
That's a carton (25) of 305W panels, seeing that the 300W panels aren't being manufactured anymore. That price IS however, VAT exclusive.
I think the OP got the deal because it is 300W panels which aren't being manufactured anymore, and therefore surplus stock that they want to get rid off.
EDIT: Placed an order for 25 x 305W panels, and I will apparently be contacted with a quote. Let's see what they say.
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@ Savage, do you sell your panels loose or is there a minimum involved ?
Let me see what happens first... I'll more than likely only hear from RenaSola tomorrow.
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^ Ok cool. It's not really for myself ... I get people asking me every now & then and at least I'll know were to refer them
Well their web site gave me a price of +- $0.55/Watt, their official quote came in at $0.59/Watt, and the OP got a price of US$0.53/Watt
$0.59/Watt aren't too bad considering this includes getting the panels to CPT, but let's see if I can work out something better. I should also get pricing on inverters today, as I suspect the same thing is happening with inverters as is happening on PV panels
EDIT: Ok so my slightly higher price includes things like VAT, shipping to CPT, etc... Long story short, I can thus do 305W for R2,461.72 (R8.07/Watt) inclusive - that's my cost and these are for brand new panels.
I've also asked now for the 300W panels (no longer being manufactured), with the hope that the price on those panels may be less.
Clearly the guys in DBN and JHB get the panels at better rates, due to the savings on shipping.
Also rather ironic now that I have this morning started receiving emails from certain 'distributors' that is rather nasty and threatening too..
$0.59/Watt aren't too bad considering this includes getting the panels to CPT, but let's see if I can work out something better. I should also get pricing on inverters today, as I suspect the same thing is happening with inverters as is happening on PV panels
EDIT: Ok so my slightly higher price includes things like VAT, shipping to CPT, etc... Long story short, I can thus do 305W for R2,461.72 (R8.07/Watt) inclusive - that's my cost and these are for brand new panels.
I've also asked now for the 300W panels (no longer being manufactured), with the hope that the price on those panels may be less.
Clearly the guys in DBN and JHB get the panels at better rates, due to the savings on shipping.
Also rather ironic now that I have this morning started receiving emails from certain 'distributors' that is rather nasty and threatening too..
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Axpert MKS 5KVA - USD660
Axpert MKS 3KVA - USD410
So yea... It would most certainly seem that the importers / distributors are coining it big time - especially on the bigger 5KVA units...
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Yes - ok so after much deliberation, that is their pricing throughout (even for wholesalers, purchasing 300+ units at a time). Directly from the factory...
US$0.58/Watt (excluding). At today's exchange rates (R12.52), that means R7.26 per Watt exclusive of VAT, or R8.28 per Watt inclusive of VAT. ReneSola *currently* (i.e. today) quotes and invoices at R12 to the dollar, so that works out to R6.96 excl. VAT per Watt, or R7.93 incl. VAT per Watt.
Pricing and panels are available through distribution centers in JHB, CPT, and DBN at the same prices, and those pricing excludes delivery, so you will need to collect. FAR off from the R6/R7 per Watt claims that has been thrown around here.
Perhaps when the exchange rates are better, R6/R7 per Watt may be achievable, but definitely not at this moment with the exchange rates sitting where they are.
Chris, you are lucky. I got quoted (yesterday afternoon) at R12.5740 for $1.
Ya - exactly. Your numbers did not add up for me at all, so this morning I was very confused. But I've been through two random sales reps, as well as my account manager (whom I actually phoned), and all three of them quoted exactly the same pricing (to the cent).
Given where the exchange rates are, we won't see sub R6/Watt unless the rand sits at R9/US$, or sub R7/Watt unless the rand sits at R10.50/US$
I am going to be contacting a few local South African factories as well, but given where the exchange rates are, I suspect their pricing to be really similar. I see no reason why a local company will sell at reduced rates, just because overseas manufacturers are at a specific price. There should be differences in price yes, but I expect those differences to be negligible.
Chris, you are lucky. I got quoted (yesterday afternoon) at R12.5740 for $1.
Thats r0.4 extra per watt
So got pricing from a factory in DBN... Why am I not surprised...
A-Grade panels: R7.50 per Wp, excl VAT
B-Grade panels: R7.10 per Wp, excl VAT
B-Grade has slight (barely noticeable) visual defects. So even locally manufactured panels are pretty much the same price, and the reasoning there (I believe) is because the actual PV Cells are still imported... The panel is assembled locally, but the Cells still come from overseas.
A-Grade panels: R7.50 per Wp, excl VAT
B-Grade panels: R7.10 per Wp, excl VAT
B-Grade has slight (barely noticeable) visual defects. So even locally manufactured panels are pretty much the same price, and the reasoning there (I believe) is because the actual PV Cells are still imported... The panel is assembled locally, but the Cells still come from overseas.