Solar users in Cape Town could face substantially higher electricity bills

Sinbad said:
And if you dip out of your pipe dream into reality for a second, how do you see a policy like that playing out? Remember, there are real humans involved at all levels.
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It is too late for Cape Town, DA socialism has opened the floodgates for poor immigrants. I think 2025 is the year that the middle class DA supporters will face the truth about DA socialism, but it is too late now. I was a property owner in Cape Town, but I saw this coming and sold and bought in a smaller Boland municipality. This is the only solution for the middle class to survive.
 
spiff said:
The DA are just scumbags - ripping off ratepayers 🤬
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This is passing on the Eskom increases to the consumer. Some of it. The city is still shielding consumers here to an extent.
In the end it's still Eskom's fault all the way.

Anyway... With my solar system I'll still be paying less than half of what I used to for electricity. I'm still laughing all the way to the bank. And I still often find myself surprised when I hear people talking about incidents of load shedding, or read about them online. Load Shedding? lol! There are still measures I can employ to save even more. I still don't see how Eskom's new pricing will discourage solar users, or any user that works to use less billed electricity as they ramp up the per unit costs. As any fool should reasonably expect consumers would do.

Eventually it will be pushed too far, and then it'll get challenged in court, and then Eskom's little world will implode. Not due to solar users - But due to its own idiotic ****ery.
 
Benedict A55h0le not said:
It is too late for Cape Town, DA socialism has opened the floodgates for poor immigrants. I think 2025 is the year that the middle class DA supporters will face the truth about DA socialism, but it is too late now. I was a property owner in Cape Town, but I saw this coming and sold and bought in a smaller Boland municipality. This is the only solution for the middle class to survive.
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It's too late for SA. Cape Town is a microcosm of the greater whole. You don't think your smaller Boland municipality will go the same way?
 
The Trutherizer said:
This is passing on the Eskom increases to the consumer. Some of it. The city is still shielding consumers here to an extent.
In the end it's still Eskom's fault all the way.

Anyway... With my solar system I'll still be paying less than half of what I used to for electricity. I'm still laughing all the way to the bank. And I still often find myself surprised when I hear people talking about incidents of load shedding, or read about them online. Load Shedding? lol! There are still measures I can employ to save even more. I still don't see how Eskom's new pricing will discourage solar users, or any user that works to use less billed electricity as they ramp up the per unit costs. As any fool should reasonably expect consumers would do.

Eventually it will be pushed too far, and then it'll get challenged in court, and then Eskom's little world will implode. Not due to solar users - But due to its own idiotic ****ery.
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This nonsense is right up there with spinning for the ANC. You are drinking the DA socialist propaganda cool aid. The DA is protecting the poor and indigent classes, while causing hyperinflation for the last 15 years for middle class rates and taxes. You will be paying more in total for rates and taxes, regardless of your solar system. It has already been pushed too far, and it is going to get worse at a quicker pace from now on.
 
So Grok estimates Western Cape solar users provide around 450mw to the grid.
If every solar user in a coordinated effort, stopped using solar, would the strain on the grid be noticeable ? IE Solar revolt.
 
Sinbad said:
It's too late for SA. Cape Town is a microcosm of the greater whole. You don't think your smaller Boland municipality will go the same way?
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The trick about living in SA is to stay ahead of the curve. Yes, my Boland municipality might go the same way, but maybe not. And if it does, then I will move to an even smaller municipality, or move to Namibia. What is clear now is that like you say, the DA is not interested in preventing Cape Town from going the same way as all cities in SA.
 
Benedict A55h0le not said:
The trick about living in SA is to stay ahead of the curve. Yes, my Boland municipality might go the same way, but maybe not. And if it does, then I will move to an even smaller municipality, or move to Namibia. What is clear now is that like you say, the DA is not interested in preventing Cape Town from going the same way as all cities in SA.
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No, that is not what I'm saying.
The DA _IS_ trying to prevent Cape Town from going the same way as other cities in SA. The problem is, it costs a lot of money to do that. You want CT to not go the same way, kak en betaal.
 
Sinbad said:
No, that is not what I'm saying.
The DA _IS_ trying to prevent Cape Town from going the same way as other cities in SA. The problem is, it costs a lot of money to do that. You want CT to not go the same way, kak en betaal.
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COCT is taking the piss with the new fixed rates. Run a province like a business, this is what you get.

All this extra we're paying for years. Now it will be based on your property value, but you'll receive the same level of service as someone up the street with a house 1mil cheaper.
 
Bliksis said:
COCT is taking the piss with the new fixed rates. Run a province like a business, this is what you get.

All this extra we're paying for years. Now it will be based on your property value, but you'll receive the same level of service as someone up the street with a house 1mil cheaper.
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Correct. When you don't have enough income to cover expenses, you find ways to make that income. If you want to live in a functioning city in SA and you're wealthy, you're going to pay through your ass to keep it functioning, because the people poorer than you cannot afford to pay as much.

It's progressive taxation.

You can shout about it all you like, but there's no workable alternative. If the city abandoned service delivery in areas that had lower property values, what do you think would happen, realistically?

This is the hole that SA is in - there are not enough taxpayers and too many people that need carrying.
 
Sinbad said:
No, that is not what I'm saying.
The DA _IS_ trying to prevent Cape Town from going the same way as other cities in SA. The problem is, it costs a lot of money to do that. You want CT to not go the same way, kak en betaal.
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The only thing the DA is trying is to get more votes for themselves, in order to get more money for themselves. Throwing the middle class under the bus is going to end similar to all other cities, and maybe even worse.
 
Sinbad said:
Correct. When you don't have enough income to cover expenses, you find ways to make that income. If you want to live in a functioning city in SA and you're wealthy, you're going to pay through your ass to keep it functioning, because the people poorer than you cannot afford to pay as much.

It's progressive taxation.
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I totally disagree. I will be paying around R600-700 a month more, and I'll not be getting any kind of improvement in service.

Instead, they will build MyCiti bus routes in areas where they have and will burn them down and stone the buses. That's a great example of service improvement. LMAO
 
Benedict A55h0le not said:
The only thing the DA is trying is to get more votes for themselves, in order to get more money for themselves. Throwing the middle class under the bus is going to end similar to all other cities, and maybe even worse.
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Yes, it is.

There's no other choice though. See my post above about abandoning poor areas.
 
Sinbad said:
No, that is not what I'm saying.
The DA _IS_ trying to prevent Cape Town from going the same way as other cities in SA. The problem is, it costs a lot of money to do that. You want CT to not go the same way, kak en betaal.
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Eventually they will run out of money , to much poor immigration to that area.
Clifton and Seapoint will soon be Hillbrow
 
Sinbad said:
Correct. When you don't have enough income to cover expenses, you find ways to make that income. If you want to live in a functioning city in SA and you're wealthy, you're going to pay through your ass to keep it functioning, because the people poorer than you cannot afford to pay as much.

It's progressive taxation.
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It is extreme socialism and it is not sustainable. People will simply move to areas where they are able to gain more from their hard work. SA cities are stuffed, CPT included.
 
Bliksis said:
I totally disagree. I will be paying around R600-700 a month more, and I'll not be getting any kind of improvement in service.

Instead, they will build MyCiti bus routes in areas where they have and will burn them down and stone the buses. That's a great example of service improvement. LMAO
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Taxation in a nutshell. I was paying literally hundreds of thousands of rands more than most of the country, and that went up all the time, and I only saw decreases in service.

Not sure why you think it would be any different in a country that has insufficient taxpayers.
 
Ragnarök said:
Eventually they will run out of money , to much poor immigration to that area.
Clifton and Seapoint will soon be Hillbrow
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That I doubt, though. Seapoint had actually seen massive improvement the past few years.
 
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