Some films on Charles Darwin

[Kornhub]

Thought I would let you guys know that they showing some films about Charles Darwin on channel 251 starting at 13:59.

Can't wait to learn more...lol can't believe I never believed in evolution at one stage

Anyway enjoy guys

 

[Balstrome]

Thought I would let you guys know that they showing some films about Charles Darwin on channel 251 starting at 13:59.

Can't wait to learn more...lol can't believe I never believed in evolution at one stage

Anyway enjoy guys

I don't believe in evolution, I know it's correct. The difference is vast.

 

[Kornhub]

You know what I meant

 

[RazedInBlack]

Can you rip it to .avi?

 

[Leostar]

I watched one show and wish to receive comments on the following items that are not yet clear to me?

The following based on what he said on the very interesting TV show that I watched.

1) Easy for a Professor and author to debate issue with school children and make them look like what?? .....Monkeys?............where is pacman when we need him LOL


2) Easy for him to have easy over interviews with other scientists that are also open minded. I am open minded (interested person) and think that we do evolve. Perhaps only the how and why differs from his ideas.


3) I was thinking about his comment that we (all living organisms) are merely passing on “genes” and that genes are the reason why all living organisms are here in existence. Thus genes (DNA codes) is why we are here.
Thus we are all servants for viruses bugs (diseases) and tape worms (Trojan horses LOL) etc as they are more successful than us at the survival game?


4) He said that there is no reason for changes, changes just happen (for the sake of changing?) I guess that the “survival” of the species (DNA codes) was implied so did not warrant a mention by him?


5) He discussed why the selfish ultraistic gene (Being nice to people) is selected by many women in prospective donor and that the donor is “A really nice person”. Niceness is thus a very desirable trait. (Selected by only some women ?)

So why have we not all evolved into very nice people by now? Or is ugly mean (killer dog eat dog) selfish people traits more desirable?

Are they (the bad ones) also needed for the species to survive and to evolve? But into what? Both good and bad at the same time?


6) Perhaps the species need diseases and wars to keep populations down? Thus explaining why we have not yet evolved out of ugly nasty war mongering gene killing beings?


This leads me to the Climate gate debate on the web showing that scientists rather change the data than their opinions?

Perhaps global warming is a natural phenomena used to help insects, bacteria germs to get rid of parasites that threaten to blow up the planet thus cause the extinction of all DNA genes. Thus we are not fit to survive as we can wipe out all other life forms as well?


Just asking?

 

[HapticSimian]

1) Easy for a Professor and author to debate issue with school children and make them look like what?? .....Monkeys?............where is pacman when we need him LOL

You miss the illustrative value of hearing the youth's opinion. I found it quite worrying that young people, the next generation, don't know the first thing about the reality they live in.

2) Easy for him to have easy over interviews with other scientists that are also open minded. I am open minded (interested person) and think that we do evolve. Perhaps only the how and why differs from his ideas.

The format was informative, not a debate. The 'why' is open to questioning. The 'how' isn't.

3) I was thinking about his comment that we (all living organisms) are merely passing on “genes” and that genes are the reason why all living organisms are here in existence. Thus genes (DNA codes) is why we are here.
Thus we are all servants for viruses bugs (diseases) and tape worms (Trojan horses LOL) etc as they are more successful than us at the survival game?

We're here, aren't we? After almost 4 billion years since the emergence of life. I don't think that makes us any less (or more) successful at survival than any living organism sharing this planet with us. We might've arrived there by a different route, but it lead to the same end - being alive now.

4) He said that there is no reason for changes, changes just happen (for the sake of changing?) I guess that the “survival” of the species (DNA codes) was implied so did not warrant a mention by him?

Yes, changes happen. Mutations are random. The genome of Polychaos dubium, an amoeba, consists 670,000,000,000 (that's 670 billion) base pairs. Every time that amoeba replicates itself, that sequence is copied. Mistakes are going to happen. Some mistakes make no difference, some are detrimental and some are beneficial. The improved odds at survival of an organism holding beneficial mutations means that it is the selective process of evolution by natural selection that isn't random; the changes are.

5) He discussed why the selfish ultruistic gene (Being nice to people) is selected by many women in prospective donor and that the donor is “A really nice person”. Niceness is thus a very desirable trait. (Selected by only some women ?)

So why have we not all evolved into very nice people by now? Or is ugly mean (killer dog eat dog) selfish people traits more desirable?

Are they (the bad ones) also needed for the species to survive and to evolve? But into what? Both good and bad at the same time?

Evolution happens within individual groups of a given organism IF and WHEN exposed to different environmental pressures, not to an entire global population of one organism simultaneously. The cultural evolution alluded to falls under the study of memetics. It is analogous to genetic evolution, but not through the same mechanisms.

6) Perhaps the species need diseases and wars to keep populations down? Thus explaining why we have not yet evolved out of ugly nasty war mongering gene killing beings?

Diseases? They're just caused by viruses and bacteria trying to survive. The fact that it happens inside us is secondary. As for us being a war-crazed species, that's changing... slowly. But I think that again is more a question of culture than physiology.

This leads me to the Climate gate debate on the web showing that scientists rather change the data than their opinions?

Climate change isn't well understood as a whole. All the contributing factors, and their individual degrees of contribution, aren't clear. Data will differ depending on what one considers. Please don't for a moment think that there is the same degree of discourse when it comes to evolution - there isn't.

Perhaps global warming is a natural phenomena used to help insects, bacteria germs to get rid of parasites that threaten to blow up the planet thus cause the extinction of all DNA genes. Thus we are not fit to survive as we can wipe out all other life forms as well?

Sorry, what?

Also, what numpty moved this here from PD?

 

[ponder]

Watched it the other day. Very enjoyable.

Picking Richard Dawkings as the presenter on the other hand was probably not a good idea. All the bible thumpers are just going to say he has an agenda to promote.

Oh, btw, I do believe in evolution

 

[Jola]

... As for us being a war-crazed species, that's changing... slowly...

You think ?

I may disagree with that !

Crazed killing is just a heartbeat away - witness Rwanda, etc.

 

[Leostar]

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Yes, changes happen. Mutations are random.
Evolution happens within individual groups of a given organism IF and WHEN exposed to different environmental pressures,

Thanks for answers. Random mutation and social pressure I was at a few cocktails and at a tea party just now. Can I please have more arms so that I can eat and drink at the same time these functions?

Eating and drinking is an important survival requirement not so?
Even more so at cocktail functions :erm:

Diseases? They're just caused by viruses and bacteria trying to survive. The fact that it happens inside us is secondary. As for us being a war-crazed species, that's changing... slowly. But I think that again is more a question of culture than physiology.

As soon as medical science find a cure for us, the viruses find a cure for what they deem to be a disease to them LOL
So who is winning the race? Health or diseases?

He refers to the evolution of the "being nice gene". He spoke a bit about being nice. (Part you did not answer as yet?). He refers to the selfish gene as in his book that he wrote.

Perhaps we can also call this "being nice gene" the "need for Religion gene" or the "seeking God gene"?

This should help to balance the "need to kill others WAR Gene" ?

This being "nice gene" is required ie we help others (not relations) and animals etc for no reward other than feeling good and having done the "right thing".

Whatever the "Right thing" may be for each person

PS he did refer that he might need to consider that our evolution might be driven by the evolution in consciousness (morals?)

 

[Leostar]

Richard Dawkings as the presenter on the other hand was probably not a good idea. All the bible thumpers are just going to say he has an agenda to promote.

Oh, btw, I do believe in evolution

No we evolved past that stage long ago LOL
We have no agenda as he has no agenda either??