South Afircan Elections 2009

[Teleological]

Discuss anything relevant to the South African Elections in 2009 (within the rules off course).

Does anyone else think Tokyo Sexwale is playing a clever game by aligning himself with Zuma and not aggressively standing against him? If Zuma is convicted (for whatever), Tokyo will have earned a few brownie points in Zuma's book, and Bob's your uncle... Sexwale for President.

 

[killadoob]

anc will loose

ok back to reality, not much to discuss just the new president and if he will be worse

if he is worse zimbabwe here come


im just preying tokyo is our next president

 

[Skeptik]

So is Mbeki going to be the country president or not. For some reason nobody discusses this anymore.

 

[Nick333]

So is Mbeki going to be the country president or not. For some reason nobody discusses this anymore.

Ok so admittedly I haven't really been following the whole election thing very closely, but is this really an issue anymore? Since he's not going to be ANC president?

 

[Kosmik]

Skeptic, as far as I understand it, Mbeki cannot be country president again as it would be his third term and our constitution does not "currently" allow this. However he can run for ANC president and still win that.

 

[rwenzori]

and Bob's your uncle...

Please don't mention the "B**" word in this regard!

 

[Obaht]

Viva Comradski Zuma!

The people will prosper now that he will be our beloved new leader. We need someone like Uncle Bob Mugabe who can show the west where to stick their noses.

Now maybe we can finally change the name of the Voortrekker Monument to something that will be more palatible for the people.

Viva Comradski Zuma! Viva!

Yeah right!

 

[AirWolf]

Discuss anything relevant to the South African Elections in 2009 (within the rules off course).

Does anyone else think Tokyo Sexwale is playing a clever game by aligning himself with Zuma and not aggressively standing against him? If Zuma is convicted (for whatever), Tokyo will have earned a few brownie points in Zuma's book, and Bob's your uncle... Sexwale for President.

Sexwale wasn't nominated for president (of ANC), but if Zuma does become president (of ANC), and thereafter gets convicted then he would be able to appoint the president (of the country) when the ANC wins the national elections (as you suggest, possibly Sexwale), unless his powers to do so are suspended if/when he gets convicted. Then the deputy president (of the ANC, possibly Nkosazana Zuma), might want the top job of the country for him/herself.

Skeptic, as far as I understand it, Mbeki cannot be country president again as it would be his third term and our constitution does not "currently" allow this. However he can run for ANC president and still win that.

That's exactly how I understood it - the ANC constitution does not have a restriction on the number of terms of its president. There were however a few murmurs in the media from the ANCYL (I think) and others to change this, but these were squashed (possibly by Mbeki).

 

[BobbyMac]

The South African people vote for a party - not a person. The president is elected by Parliament. The ANC's NEC is effectively what runs this country, so unless there's an entirely new NEC it doesn't matter what **** stain is at the top, it will stil be the same old crapper running the country.

 

[chiskop]

Ok so admittedly I haven't really been following the whole election thing very closely, but is this really an issue anymore? Since he's not going to be ANC president?

As far as I know Mbeki could still be ANC president, though it looks far from likely.

Which is the better option between Mbeki pulling the strings in the background* or Zuma running things, I don't know.


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*For some reason I just thought of Boodles.

 

[chiskop]

The South African people vote for a party - not a person. The president is elected by Parliament. The ANC's NEC is effectively what runs this country, so unless there's an entirely new NEC it doesn't matter what **** stain is at the top, it will stil be the same old crapper running the country.

It is a major problem IMO. It means that MPs have to suck up to their bosses to be sure that they'll be on the lists for the next election. A constituency-based or similar system would mean that potential MPs would have to be answerable to their constituents rather.

 

[BobbyMac]

It is a major problem IMO. It means that MPs have to suck up to their bosses to be sure that they'll be on the lists for the next election. A constituency-based or similar system would mean that potential MPs would have to be answerable to their constituents rather.

Yeah, I agree, as it currently stands no one is willing to assume responsibility for anything because the system allows them to. The country doesn't necessarily need new people in power - just an overhaul of middle and upper government to crowbar in some accountability.

 

[Azania]

It doesnt look good for President Mbeki,he has created more enemies within ANC and Zuma has played his game very well throughout by gaining support from the unions and youth league. on the Zuma camp Kgalema Motlanthe is cmpaigning for Dep President which puts him on the line should Zuma be convicted. Tokyo is on the chairperson list and does not stand a chance to be the president but rather take care of ANC branches.

 

[lion_fish]

It is a major problem IMO. It means that MPs have to suck up to their bosses to be sure that they'll be on the lists for the next election. A constituency-based or similar system would mean that potential MPs would have to be answerable to their constituents rather.

Never going to happen in Africa.

 

[Leitmotif]

I've never registered to vote. Where and how do I do so?

 

[lion_fish]

I've never registered to vote. Where and how do I do so?

Why bother?

The Anc is going to win if you vote or not.

 

[dlk001]

Tokyo is aligning himself to be Zuma's next financial advisor in order to keep Mvela going.

 

[chiskop]

I've never registered to vote. Where and how do I do so?

There're usually registration drives before the elections when you'll be able to register at a local school community hall etc. For the last elections I had to go to the high school up the road - took me 5 min.

Why bother

It's no good complaining if you don't take part. It's like the lotto, if you don't participate you'll never win.

 

[BobbyMac]

Why bother?

The Anc is going to win if you vote or not.

Haven't you left the country? Now if you have, shaddap and enjoy your new one.

 

[lion_fish]

Haven't you left the country? Now if you have, shaddap and enjoy your new one.

Am enjoying my new one immensly but its rather fun to point back and snigger...