South Africa faces a vaccine problem ahead of a possible fourth Covid-19 wave

porchrat

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A trigger for this initiative would be to first ban them from using disability parking spots and facilities. From there, let it snowball.
You're joking right? Tell me fat people don't actually get to use disability parking spots?
 

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You're joking right? Tell me fat people don't actually get to use disability parking spots?
No jokes, Sir. Granted, those I see are so obese that walking has become difficult. Most park there and move themselves into these riding carts.

Go to a casino; you'll see this more often than not there.
 

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No jokes, Sir. Granted, those I see are so obese that walking has become difficult. Most park there and move themselves into these riding carts.

Go to a casino; you'll see this more often than not there.
ugh. That's just depressing.

I get it if one has some sort of legitimate metabolic disorder or something and can't help it but if one is just a lazy muppet that eats too many burgers one shouldn't be able to call that a disability. Get on a bloody treadmill.

If anything having to park further from the entrance will be doing them a favour. Give them special parkings extra far away.
 

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In homeopathy's defence it is therapeutic in cases of dehydration.
And where do we place Herbalism and Traditional Medicine in your opinion? Both are very hot issues for a large portion of the South African population.
 

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And where do we place Herbalism and Traditional Medicine in your opinion? Both are very hot issues for a large portion of the South African population.
Don't forget poor-woman-diamo...I mean...crystals.
 

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And where do we place Herbalism and Traditional Medicine in your opinion? Both are very hot issues for a large portion of the South African population.
Depends on what you mean by herbalism and traditional medicine. If you mean the sangoma shaking chicken bones at you then as that sangoma is to black South Africans so homeopathy is to white south africans. In the immortal words of Penn Jillete: "Everybody got a gris-gris". That sort of stuff is simply not effective. It's magical hocus-pocus with a proposed mechanism of action that has been disproven.

If we're talking about natural medicine however that's a different story. History is packed full of examples of old natural remedies with effective active ingredients. We owe so much of modern medicine to treatments that have their roots (haha!) in treatments our ancestors discovered by mixing plants and herbs. The big one most people jump on is willow bark as a painkiller. We used to mix it into a sort of tea. Today we use the refined derivative of the active ingredient in that bark (salicin) as a medication we call aspirin.
 

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Depends on what you mean by herbalism and traditional medicine. If you mean the sangoma shaking chicken bones at you then as that sangoma is to black South Africans so homeopathy is to white south africans. In the immortal words of Penn Jillete: "Everybody got a gris-gris". That sort of stuff is simply not effective. It's magical hocus-pocus with a proposed mechanism of action that has been disproven.

If we're talking about natural medicine however that's a different story. History is packed full of examples of old natural remedies with effective active ingredients. We owe so much of modern medicine to treatments that have their roots (haha!) in treatments our ancestors discovered by mixing plants and herbs. The big one most people jump on is willow bark as a painkiller. Today we use the refined derivative of the active ingredient in that bark (salicin) as a medication we call aspirin.
Excellent example. And as you say there are many of them as well. I was thinking about the natural medicines the Herbalists and Traditional Healers use and prescribe to thousands of people on a daily basis.
White South Africans tend to think of them as Herbalists, and many swear by them. My grandmother on the Arikaans side of the family believed exclusively in a herbalist ( Dr Dean) and would not use any modern medication at all. (she btw lived well into the 90's).
 
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Excellent example. An as you say there are many of them as well. I was thinking about the natural medicines the Herbalists and Traditional Healers use and prescribe to thousands of people on a daily basis.
White South Africans Tend to think of them as Herbalists, and swear by them. My grandmother on the Arikaans side of the family believed exclusively in a herbalist ( Dr Dean) and would not use any modern medication at all. (she btw lived well into the 90's).
If it works for her I've got nothing against it. It's not magic. There's a readily demonstrable mechanism of action with a therapeutic effect for a significant amount of these treatments. I doubt all of it works beyond placebo, but so much of it has been shown to work that those that dismiss it are I feel being foolish.
 

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Woohooo.

Slow news week, lets start a new fourth wave fear cycle.

It is not just the clowns running the world these days, its the entire fking circus.
 

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Woohooo.

Slow news week, lets start a new fourth wave fear cycle.

It is not just the clowns running the world these days, its the entire fking circus.
Too late too late she cried. The Premier of GP beat you to it On Monday I think in his GP family meeting.
 
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