South Africa is looking at a 75% pass mark for student funding from 2023

[BusinessTech]

South Africa is looking at a 75% pass mark for student funding from 2023

The National Student Financial Aid Scheme (NSFAS) is currently holding stakeholder consultations on the proposed eligibility criteria and conditions for financial aid to be effective from the 2022 academic year.

 

[Sinbad]

Do they want all the universities burned down or something?

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

Do they want all the universities burned down or something?

Meet the poese with hot lead. We need less South African leaches.

 

[Johnatan56]

This is stupid, it will be very rare for 75% in STEM subjects.
Also some lecturers purposefully design their subjects not to make it easy, had one lecturer I chatted with who said if more than 3 got that out of a class of 80, he'd failed to make the exam difficult enough and would increase the difficulty for the next one. How do you handle that?

NSFAS should rather be, no funding if fail, limited funding outside of STEM, cum laude full bursary (or bursary for every 75%+ subject).
The issue right now is funding everything, so not enough money, even if political sciences.
Other issue is that NSFAS should be tied together with SARS in terms of knowing if the student has high enough income to repay, right now it's voluntary declaration, so lots don't pay it back.

 

[PaulMurkin]

Do they want all the universities burned down or something?

Probably so that Zuma can get back into the saddle while everyone is caught up in the chaos...

 

[Sinbad]

Probably so that Zuma can get back into the saddle while everyone is caught up in the chaos...

If there's no university, there's no fees to pay so all that lovely funding can go towards black BMWs

 

[PaulMurkin]

If there's no university, there's no fees to pay so all that lovely funding can go towards black BMWs

Quite right you are

 

[rietrot]

This is stupid, it will be very rare for 75% in STEM subjects.
Also some lecturers purposefully design their subjects not to make it easy, had one lecturer I chatted with who said if more than 3 got that out of a class of 80, he'd failed to make the exam difficult enough and would increase the difficulty for the next one. How do you handle that?

NSFAS should rather be, no funding if fail, limited funding outside of STEM, cum laude full bursary (or bursary for every 75%+ subject).
The issue right now is funding everything, so not enough money, even if political sciences.
Other issue is that NSFAS should be tied together with SARS in terms of knowing if the student has high enough income to repay, right now it's voluntary declaration, so lots don't pay it back.

It is the right idea to give state funding to only the best students. Maybe then it can be better implemented?

 

[BBSA]

No problem, as long as it is decolonised education.

 

[Johnatan56]

It is the right idea to give state funding to only the best students. Maybe then it can be better implemented?

Yes/no, I think state funding should be for all those that can pass a needed skills qualification.
Right now the issue is that everyone thinks one has to have a degree, makes no sense, how will an art degree help with most jobs that they're going to end up in? Tertiary education should be top 5% or so, meanwhile it's gotten to the point where everyone wants college/university. A lot of university courses should be converted to certifications instead, e.g. journalism can be broken down into fact checking, reporting methods, etc., and each of those can be done as a cert and then allow someone to complete it within a year (or even over the span of multiple if life gets in the way). Instead most are stuck for 3-5 years wasting a lot of money (and time) going to uni that stuffed some courses.

Meanwhile doing something arbitrary like 75% as a mark will make a lot of students avoid certain courses that would be more worthwhile, I know no one would have taken the AI course in my year (was like a 52% average as a final semester subject (so most who weren't bright already fell out by that point), I think only 2 got over 75%). Would also make lots that would have picked STEM go to BA since government will fund.

 

[MikeaMatrix]

30% then 75%. GG.

 

[thestaggy]

Do they want all the universities burned down or something?

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Student bodies have already said they will make universities ungovernable if this happens.

 

[PrimeSteak]

South Africa is looking at a 75% pass mark for student funding from 2023

The National Student Financial Aid Scheme (NSFAS) is currently holding stakeholder consultations on the proposed eligibility criteria and conditions for financial aid to be effective from the 2022 academic year.

The 75% mark is meant in terms of modules, if I understand correctly. Meaning that you have to pass 75% of your modules a year. So around 7 - 8 subjects in a year for 10 subjects. It's really not an unreasonable request.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

It's really hard to get 75% for subjects at university - well at least when you study serious courses as I did..but it's well worth it when you do

A real sense of achievement comes over you when you smash a difficult course.

 

[thestaggy]

This is stupid, it will be very rare for 75% in STEM subjects.
Also some lecturers purposefully design their subjects not to make it easy, had one lecturer I chatted with who said if more than 3 got that out of a class of 80, he'd failed to make the exam difficult enough and would increase the difficulty for the next one. How do you handle that?

NSFAS should rather be, no funding if fail, limited funding outside of STEM, cum laude full bursary (or bursary for every 75%+ subject).
The issue right now is funding everything, so not enough money, even if political sciences.
Other issue is that NSFAS should be tied together with SARS in terms of knowing if the student has high enough income to repay, right now it's voluntary declaration, so lots don't pay it back.

Its not a 75% pass mark. You need to pass 75% of your modules.

 

[EvoX]

Is it 75% for uni every year or uni entrance?
75% for uni every year is difficult.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Its not a 75% pass mark. You need to pass 75% of your modules.

This.

 

[Temujin]

But then what will they do with all the gender studies courses etc

 

[mojoman]

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Student bodies have already said they will make universities ungovernable if this happens.

Lol..the African answer to everything that isnt agreed with...
That and the magical fire....

 

[Johnatan56]

Its not a 75% pass mark. You need to pass 75% of your modules.

Thanks, was skim reading, it's 75% progression rule, not pass mark, @rpm change your title.