South Africa is OK!

stoke

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Well, kicking Teklom out of the Proudly South African brand would help a lot.
 

Natasha H

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I now have nz residence which means i can now live and work in aus or nz.

Do different passports allow you residence in different countries?
eg: Aus citizenship - NZ/Aus
Dutch - Europe only, not Canada or USA?
 

Claymore

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SA is not ok. I prefer a country that enforces it's laws.

The problem comes when you have so many ridiculous laws that you might as well be in jail. In the UK, for example, being fined because your rubbish bin was a little too full, or the rubbish not being picked up because the bin was 30cm further from the edge of the road than it should have been. Or being told to remove the barbed wire from around your garden because burglars might be hurt.
 

Claymore

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What I found quite alarming is OZ has the 3th highest incidence of rape per capita(http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita) yet it's a country where laws are enforced so I'm assuming rapists get caught and convicted. What does that say about the male population of Australia then? (other than they horny)...

Yup.

And Aus and UK have higher per capita burglary and car theft rates than SA does.

(Yes, SA does have much higher violent crime rates, but the point is that other countries are not immune to crime).
 

saffakanera

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I think the author of the article must have been listening to the Lord of the Rings soundtrack when he wrote that article.

Funny I spoke to a douchebag from NZ and he told me all the SA people there are douchebags because they all hate eachothers guts and suffer from superiority complexes. Nice.
 

icyrus

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Hmm, is it just me or is his pro's and cons are bit... weak? Grass jaywalking vs. getting raped and murdered in your home?

Opinion pieces always are, as all it is is a reflection of his biases.
 

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Frankie

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It just says that, the majority of rapists emigrated from South Africa...

So how is it that the SA rape rate stays so high - is it that they are all following their leader JZ the AIDS shower man.
 

a-person

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Hey people well I'm in London right now and while I'm having an awesome time .... in the back of my mind every day is returning home despite all its problems.... the UK is better known as 'Nightmare Island' and there really is nothing special about it.

Everytime I hear a fellow South African speak in a faux British accent or called a braai a 'barbecue' I try hard not flip out. I will never forget my roots and I will be returning home when I've finished my mission of personal growth and fun, fun, fun!

All my friends here who say they will stay here no matter what get an argument for the other side every time I am around and the issue arises. When my lady and I decide to have children...they will be brought up in SA, where there is a local veld and sunshine, not some hooded yob hanging in a wet alleyway with a knife in his pocket thinking he's hard.

He doesn't know what hardcore is... but every South African does and is better equipped to deal with **** than any other person on Earth. I agree wholeheartedly with the newsletter, especially with the fact that South Africans don't support each other. We don't know what we've got 'til it's gone!

This is a-person, European passport holder, coming home soon, over and out.

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Geriatrix

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When my lady and I decide to have children...they will be brought up in SA, where there is a local veld and sunshine, not some hooded yob hanging in a wet alleyway with a knife in his pocket thinking he's hard.
Yes, here they go around in gangs and the don't always have knives, they have guns as well. I've had two almost get killed friends in violent muggings(I myself has been spared so far) and its usually 3 or more guys with guns and knives.

He doesn't know what hardcore is... but every South African does and is better equipped to deal with **** than any other person on Earth.
So you would willingly have your kids be exposed to a harsher enviroment so that they can be more hardcore? :eek:

This is a-person, European passport holder, coming home soon, over and out.
Ah, I understand now. You already have your get-out-of-jail-free card. Good for you.
 

a-person

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Wow Geriatrix, thanks for that pessimistic perspective there. I guess a get-out-of-jail-free card really can make one more happy, but still I'm prepared to come home and live 'dangerously' because that's where I come from and it's where I want to live.

If you've got the cash, SA's schooling can be brilliant. Are you saying the likes of Michael House, St Dunstans, St Johns etc have produced nothing but hardcore children? Don't put words in my mouth please. 70% of people I went to school with are successful today.

I know exactly what I'm in for crime-wise, don't let me optimism fool you. I've had friends die, hijacked, and shot at, and I guess so have you. But the difference at the end of the day is my Klippies and Coke is still half full china.

Better get yourself some ice, there's a long road ahead.
 

Syndyre

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Do different passports allow you residence in different countries?
eg: Aus citizenship - NZ/Aus
Dutch - Europe only, not Canada or USA?

Dutch citizenship will allow you to live anywhere within the EU. And Switzerland IIRC.
 

Geriatrix

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Wow Geriatrix, thanks for that pessimistic perspective there. I guess a get-out-of-jail-free card really can make one more happy, but still I'm prepared to come home and live 'dangerously' because that's where I come from and it's where I want to live.

If you've got the cash, SA's schooling can be brilliant. Are you saying the likes of Michael House, St Dunstans, St Johns etc have produced nothing but hardcore children? Don't put words in my mouth please. 70% of people I went to school with are successful today.

I know exactly what I'm in for crime-wise, don't let me optimism fool you. I've had friends die, hijacked, and shot at, and I guess so have you. But the difference at the end of the day is my Klippies and Coke is still half full china.

Better get yourself some ice, there's a long road ahead.
Just responding to your comments mate. BTW, I'm not pessimistic, I'm just making observations about what you said. I've tried pessimism and it didn't work for me. And I've said nothing of local schooling, your putting words in my mouth now. :D

I prefer to see my coke as half. And once I get my get-out-of-jail-free card, I'll be glad to come back and see if everything works out.
 

Vrotappel

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The problem comes when you have so many ridiculous laws that you might as well be in jail. In the UK, for example, being fined because your rubbish bin was a little too full, or the rubbish not being picked up because the bin was 30cm further from the edge of the road than it should have been. Or being told to remove the barbed wire from around your garden because burglars might be hurt.

I'd still take the laws rather than watching my child get murdered or my wife raped. :mad:

It's all about priorities.:)

Unfortunately I am not in the privileged position to have a foreign passport. :(
 
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