South Africa must adapt and build electric vehicles

[rvZA]

Zero support from government.

You do not need support from government at all. If you are reliant on them, then your product is worthless and already failed.

The fact is, he was more reliant on investors who believed in his product, saw the viability in and expectations of large profit return for their investments. Unfortunately, with little to no local investments it is clear that these investors did not believe in the product or the viability thereof in SA. There may also have been profitibility issues which may have caused them not to invest in the product.

This is most likely the reason why the idea fell flat. Electric vehicles are not made for a country like South Africa.

 

[The Voice]

One already did. Elon-something.

 

[Danie_V]

We must not forget SA also exports a lot of vehicles and the demand for EVs is growing. Even within Africa Uganda, Kenya and others are now starting to assemble their own EV buses and cars without us. With VW's massive commitment and drive now with EV I would have expected their assembly to have started making announcements. Seems we may be doomed to being left to make the last fossil fuelled cars in the world. France just converted one of their massive diesel manufacturing plants to now outputting electric motors for EVs.

 

[Corelli]

Actually Eskom is the least of the problems.....

Eskom only supplies the power but what about....
The few hundred thousand petrol attendants? You dont need them for electrics. Jobless suddenly
The fuel levies and taxes. With electrics you wont need to pay a fuel levy or well any further taxes on fuel.
Money made from medicine caused by excess pollution
Money made from electric drivers watching Netflix while driving (SABC havent even thought of this)
The profits for the oil companies (ANC has shares)

Yip Eskom is the least of our worries.... now if we have solar at home which is used to charge the car, would we really need Eskom even then?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Actually Eskom is the least of the problems.....

Eskom only supplies the power but what about....
The few hundred thousand petrol attendants? You dont need them for electrics. Jobless suddenly
The fuel levies and taxes. With electrics you wont need to pay a fuel levy or well any further taxes on fuel.
Money made from medicine caused by excess pollution
Money made from electric drivers watching Netflix while driving (SABC havent even thought of this)
The profits for the oil companies (ANC has shares)

Yip Eskom is the least of our worries.... now if we have solar at home which is used to charge the car, would we really need Eskom even then?

Easy, the petrol attendants will be legally still employed because you won't be legally allowed to plug your car in to charge at the charging stations around the country - problem solved
Fuel levies and taxes will be rolled into a seperate road tax and increased 3 fold. - problem easily solved and increased revenue for the fiscus... WIN! And covers pretty much the rest of your issues...

 

[ThatGuy_ZA]

LOL, Eskom says no to EV's...

Also, It would be a tad ironic to use a petrol/diesel powered generator to charge an EV.

 

[LCBXX]

I honestly don't want a South African designed, let alone South African built, electric car.

 

[pinball wizard]

You do know that cars don't need charging daily, right?

You can go a few weeks without charging (dependent on battery size).
Once a week, or once a month would be fine.

Once a week or once a month.

You understand the need to charge the battery is completely dependant on range?

Most of us would need to charge a EV every two-three days given the distances between home and work most of us drive. Not to mention those of us that travel to site or to customer premise.

 

[itareanlnotani]

Once a week or once a month.

You understand the need to charge the battery is completely dependant on range?

Most of us would need to charge a EV every two-three days given the distances between home and work most of us drive. Not to mention those of us that travel to site or to customer premise.

Car battery sizes range from 40KWhr at the low end up to 100KWhr from whats currently available for sale here.

You can count on roughly 10-15KM/KWhr so you should see around 400-600km from a full battery - 1000-1500km at the high end.

Not sure how many km you drive, but the average person drives about 40km a day.
Given the low end range, that would easily last you a week before charging - i.e. charging once a week would be fine.

Most electric car owners will charge daily. i.e. plug in the car when you get home, or get to the office.
So, it will likely always be topped up, unlike a petrol car.

 

[pinball wizard]

You can count on roughly 10-15KM/KWhr so you should see around 400-600km from a full battery - 1000-1500km at the high end.

Is your real name Jon Snow?

What's The Real World Highway Range Of Today's Electric Cars? We Test To Find Out

We take the most popular electric cars, fully charge them, and then drive them at 70 mph to find out just how far they will go. Which one goes the furthest?

insideevs.com

Real world stats with 400km around the top of the range.

Also, affordability is a real, actual thing. Look at something realistically affordable for South Africans on that page, a chev spark ev, and your at 100km range.

 

[JohnStarr]

ZA Govenment will probably back Hydrogen...

Coal...hydrogen is for the birds. The Guptas are already whetting their appetites at the prospect of supplying rocks...I mean COAL, for cars.

 

[JohnStarr]

Car battery sizes range from 40KWhr at the low end up to 100KWhr from whats currently available for sale here.

You can count on roughly 10-15KM/KWhr so you should see around 400-600km from a full battery - 1000-1500km at the high end.

Not sure how many km you drive, but the average person drives about 40km a day.
Given the low end range, that would easily last you a week before charging - i.e. charging once a week would be fine.

Most electric car owners will charge daily. i.e. plug in the car when you get home, or get to the office.
So, it will likely always be topped up, unlike a petrol car.

40km based on what speed? And how does running an aircon also work against the mileage offered by the battery along with the weight in the car at any given time?

 

[AlphaBravo]

Certainly we do need to get tapped into the ever growing EV market. Alas, no hope though, government will politicise and kill it, or delay the market until it' too late...meaning we'll just end up with some chinese 'sponsored' version of local manufacturing...

 

[itareanlnotani]

40km based on what speed? And how does running an aircon also work against the mileage offered by the battery along with the weight in the car at any given time?

Aircon usage will be minor in comparison - 1-2kw /hr roughly.

40km based on distance. Speed is mostly irrelevant unless you will be doing hours of highway driving. Most people are not doing that on a daily commute. Electric will be far more efficient at stop/start vs non-ev as they use no power when moving, and braking regenerates energy.

Kwh/100km ratings for many cars can be found here -

Electric car EPA fuel economy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org