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South Africa: not civil war but sad decay
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curious as to what age group jontyb and mac_mac74 fall into
if you're always expecting the worst, guess what you'll get.
once again...is the glass half empty or half full
*sigh* - this is not a matter of optimism vs skeptism, but rather a matter of blindness to what is reality. In reality, Tens of thousands of people are being murdered, raped and assaulted in SA. Yet people are willing to accept it as a way of life and pretty much just ignore it. It's no longer a question whether or when people are going to be or currently being affected by the Government's complete inability to govern - it's more a question of to what degree are they affected. I daresay that the majority of the people being worst affected also happens to be the majority of the country - the desolate and poor. You're living in a country where potential is being eroded by the same element that is eroding the fabric of our society - the inability to effectively and fairly govern - not rule.
curious as to what age group jontyb and mac_mac74 fall into
What does my age have to do with anything?
curious as to what age group jontyb and mac_mac74 fall into
perhaps another "survey question for the day"
does it really matter what ages group we fall into!!! what is your point?
Well... enough bitching about the situation, what can we do about it? Remember, we put these idiots in power. Can we publically expose the travelgate fraud members?
No, the names are being withheld.
From a personal perspective - I think you have to do what you can, but remember it is tough in a system that protects overall human rights above a victim's rights.
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What does my age have to do with anything?
well there seems to be a predispostion of white people over the age of 30 to complain about south africa quite a bit.
i have a theory on this....people in this age group in general did not attend school when it was multiracial.
hence their perception of black people being able to running a country effectively would fair rather poorly
well there seems to be a predispostion of white people over the age of 30 to complain about south africa quite a bit.
i have a theory on this....people in this age group in general did not attend school when it was multiracial.
Sorry for you mate. I'm 25
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Sorry for you mate. I'm 25
its not exact science...lets be more specific. people who did not attend a multiracial school from gr1 to gr12
there will always be the perception of things were better before they were incontroll
You are trying to walk down a path that's not going to fit my feet mate. Your point will continue to be missed by me as I simply don't fit your profile.its not exact science...lets be more specific. people who did not attend a multiracial school from gr1 to gr12
there will always be the perception of things were better before they were incontroll
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You are trying to walk down a path that's not going to fit my feet mate. Your point will continue to be missed by me as I simply don't fit your profile.
so be it.
its home time anyway
its not exact science...lets be more specific. people who did not attend a multiracial school from gr1 to gr12
there will always be the perception of things were better before they were incontroll
bud, i dont think it has anything to do with attending a multiracial school, i attended one of the first schools to become what was then model C schools in the Cape, the fact is , have a look at the rest of Africa, its a mess (besides Namibia, Botswana and a few others) , and clearly it seems that SA is heading that way. be careful about being stereotypical.
its not exact science...lets be more specific. people who did not attend a multiracial school from gr1 to gr12
there will always be the perception of things were better before they were incontroll
For a lot of white people, things were better. I had a white friend in the 80's and I lived with him and his family during the '85 unrest so I could continue to attend school (it was virtually impossible to commute from Soweto during that period).
I can honestly say that life was good for whites back then. I remember how nice everybody was (even to me). Neighbours knew each other, you could go anywhere without fear. It felt like one of those American small towns you see in Hollywood movies. It's not like that anymore.
For a lot of white people, things were better. I had a white friend in the 80's and I lived with him and his family during the '85 unrest so I could continue to attend school (it was virtually impossible to commute from Soweto during that period).
I can honestly say that life was good for whites back then. I remember how nice everybody was (even to me). Neighbours knew each other, you could go anywhere without fear. It felt like one of those American small towns you see in Hollywood movies. It's not like that anymore.
u know what really p1$$#s me off, is when black people constantly remind white people how fortunate we were - we know that , get over it - we didnt ask for appartheid, yes we benefited from it - i have some really great black friends, probably not as many as i would have had if apartheid never existed.
How is a country supposed to move forward when people are always reminding us how lucky we were.
Who is getting the bursaries now, who is getting premium rate shares from certain companies, who is being put 1st in the queue for job interviews, who is 1st in the queue for varsity entry, who gets government contracts - do we whites complain -NO , WHY, because we accept that wrongs need to be corrected - albeit that the government does not do this in the correct manner. What about coloured and indians , were they not victims of apartheid , yep , and now they arent black enough?
who is 1st in the queue for varsity entry, who gets government contracts - do we whites complain -NO , WHY,
Exactly what do you call what you were doing in this post. Sounds like complaining to me.
well there seems to be a predispostion of white people over the age of 30 to complain about south africa quite a bit.
i have a theory on this....people in this age group in general did not attend school when it was multiracial.
hence their perception of black people being able to running a country effectively would fair rather poorly
So you are dismissing all critism of the government as racism? Interesting... you dont happen to work in government do you?
Exactly what do you call what you were doing in this post. Sounds like complaining to me.
no , u are the one bitching, im making a point - lemme guess u still dont get it, stop the bitching, life is too short to bitch - have a good weekend , ive had enough of this topic
ciao
u know what really p1$$#s me off, is when black people constantly remind white people how fortunate we were
Oh by the way, you still are fortunate. The big difference is that black guys like me are now able to join in the good fortune. The bigger the middle class gets, the stronger our voice (and the votes that go along with it) becomes and the greater the probability that the government will not dare ignore the issues we find important.