South Africa risks going down the same road as Zimbabwe with property change warns Western Cape government

Other Pineapple Smurf

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Eh,that's quite the statement to make
Sometimes it's not about saying the opposite of what the other guy does,especially when the other guy's idea is lunacy,and his red friend's is even worse

I've sat on my local DA electoral college and it's not about what quality candidates can do for citizens, it's about what they can do for the DA leadership even if means going against their liberal grain.

Let's take a minimum wage, often seen as a liberal policy to raise the poor out of poverty but since it's an ANC implementation, the DA goes against it. They want the most vulnerable, the unemployed, to be able to opt-out of it.
 

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I've sat on my local DA electoral college and it's not about what quality candidates can do for citizens, it's about what they can do for the DA leadership even if means going against their liberal grain.

Let's take a minimum wage, often seen as a liberal policy to raise the poor out of poverty but since it's an ANC implementation, the DA goes against it. They want the most vulnerable, the unemployed, to be able to opt-out of it.
Not saying it's never the case of opposition for the sake of it but this one seems to be a more sensible side of the 2
 

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I've sat on my local DA electoral college and it's not about what quality candidates can do for citizens, it's about what they can do for the DA leadership even if means going against their liberal grain.

Let's take a minimum wage, often seen as a liberal policy to raise the poor out of poverty but since it's an ANC implementation, the DA goes against it. They want the most vulnerable, the unemployed, to be able to opt-out of it.
Minimum wage is iffy, it only really works if low enough unemployment. With South Africa unemployment rate, upping the minimum wage people will rather work off the books and have a job than do formal employment as having enough to buy some bread is more important than whether it's high enough for the work. You'll basically up the wage for enough formal economy, but you'll increase the price of goods for everything as well, so won't work out well probably.

If unemployment was <5%, then you start messing around with it to try and make it so advantaged, but doesn't really work if trying to keep rand value low enough to have favorable export. Whole other discussion though.
 

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How long have they been saying Zim 2.0? Lolzzz
Like a broken record
 

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I've sat on my local DA electoral college and it's not about what quality candidates can do for citizens, it's about what they can do for the DA leadership even if means going against their liberal grain.

Let's take a minimum wage, often seen as a liberal policy to raise the poor out of poverty but since it's an ANC implementation, the DA goes against it. They want the most vulnerable, the unemployed, to be able to opt-out of it.
It is a progressive policy, not a liberal policy.

The DA's option is actually very sane, if you have been unemployed for years, surely any job is better than no job?
 

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Every day it's getting closer ... show us some ANC success stories to prove things are getting better.
What, every time our currency loses 1c to the dollar you celebrate and scream Zim 2.0?
 

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What, every time our currency loses 1c to the dollar you celebrate and scream Zim 2.0?
Not at all - I do however see nothing but failed SOE's, corruption and nepotism is just as rife as before and no-one going to jail.
So instead of avoiding the question - show us some ANC success stories to prove things are getting better.
 

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Not at all - I do however see nothing but failed SOE's, corruption and nepotism is just as rife as before and no-one going to jail.
So instead of avoiding the question - show us some ANC success stories to prove things are getting better.
Might be wrong but have we ever had a negative GDP?
 

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Fiscal cliff's here,property rights being whittled down,NHI is being pushed through,most of the big SOEs have collapsed or are collapsing,universal-basic income's also being pushed hard
Seems like @Ghost64 is waiting for his turn to collect some cheques
 
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Might be wrong but have we ever had a negative GDP?
That's another question, very complex and speculative at that.

If the ANC was doing such an amazing and wonderful job you would have no problem listing their many successes.

The truth is that the ANC IS running our beautiful country into the ground while enriching themselves and smiling all the way without consequence or accountability.

As a single parent with 2 kids i am responsible to keep a roof over our head and food on the table; even after cutting back on all the essentials and getting yearly increases inline with CPI, I have a lot less disposable income then what I had 7 years ago.
I pay a large portion of my income to tax + if you add all the other ways they sneak taxes in everywhere and what I still have to pay privately it is fast becoming less and less economical to stay here.
This is exactly why a lot of people are referring to SA as heading to Zim 2.0 - things are getting worse by the day and there is nothing indicating things are going to get bettter; only worse.
 

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That's another question, very complex and speculative at that.

If the ANC was doing such an amazing and wonderful job you would have no problem listing their many successes.

The truth is that the ANC IS running our beautiful country into the ground while enriching themselves and smiling all the way without consequence or accountability.

As a single parent with 2 kids i am responsible to keep a roof over our head and food on the table; even after cutting back on all the essentials and getting yearly increases inline with CPI, I have a lot less disposable income then what I had 7 years ago.
I pay a large portion of my income to tax + if you add all the other ways they sneak taxes in everywhere and what I still have to pay privately it is fast becoming less and less economical to stay here.
This is exactly why a lot of people are referring to SA as heading to Zim 2.0 - things are getting worse by the day and there is nothing indicating things are going to get bettter; only worse.
Are you mistaking the ANC national party for a Anti Nuptial Contract?
Coz it sounds like you blaming the ANC for not being able to find another spouse (with an additional income)?
 

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Might be wrong but have we ever had a negative GDP?
I don't think negative GDP is possible, not even in Africa. GDP is gross domestic product, i.e. total of goods and services produced/delivered in monetary terms. You can have negative economic growth however.
 

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It will start with free land. Then they will demand free electricity, water, broadband...
Free free free demand demand demand ....
 
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